[net,1/2] MAINTAINERS: Remove Karsten Keil

  He's no longer active maintaining ISDN/mISDN subsystem: his last message
on kernel mailing lists was three years ago [1] and last commit activity
from him was 1e1589ad8b5cb5 ("mISDN: Support DR6 indication in mISDNipac
driver") in 2016 when he gave Acked-by: from his @b1-systems.de address.

Move him to CREDITS, as netdev people should already handle ISDN/mISDN
patches.

Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0ee243a9-9937-ad26-0684-44b18e772662@linux-pingi.de/ [1]
Cc: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
Cc: Karsten Keil <keil@b1-systems.de>
Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
---
 CREDITS     | 4 ++++
 MAINTAINERS | 6 ++----
 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
  

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 04:14:18PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> He's no longer active maintaining ISDN/mISDN subsystem: his last message
> on kernel mailing lists was three years ago [1] and last commit activity
> from him was 1e1589ad8b5cb5 ("mISDN: Support DR6 indication in mISDNipac
> driver") in 2016 when he gave Acked-by: from his @b1-systems.de address.
> 
> Move him to CREDITS, as netdev people should already handle ISDN/mISDN
> patches.
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0ee243a9-9937-ad26-0684-44b18e772662@linux-pingi.de/ [1]
> Cc: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
> Cc: Karsten Keil <keil@b1-systems.de>
> Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>

Are you sure he's not active?  It doesn't take much work to keep an old
subsystem like this alive, last I remember, real changes were accepted
just fine.

Perhaps just don't send coding style cleanups to old subsystems?  :)

I would not take these unless Karsten agrees that he no longer wants to
maintain this.

thanks,

greg k-h
  

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:32:09AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 04:14:18PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > He's no longer active maintaining ISDN/mISDN subsystem: his last message
> > on kernel mailing lists was three years ago [1] and last commit activity
> > from him was 1e1589ad8b5cb5 ("mISDN: Support DR6 indication in mISDNipac
> > driver") in 2016 when he gave Acked-by: from his @b1-systems.de address.
> > 
> > Move him to CREDITS, as netdev people should already handle ISDN/mISDN
> > patches.
> > 
> > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0ee243a9-9937-ad26-0684-44b18e772662@linux-pingi.de/ [1]
> > Cc: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
> > Cc: Karsten Keil <keil@b1-systems.de>
> > Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
> 
> Are you sure he's not active?  It doesn't take much work to keep an old
> subsystem like this alive, last I remember, real changes were accepted
> just fine.

As for LKML messages, yes; he doesn't post any new messages since 2020.

> 
> Perhaps just don't send coding style cleanups to old subsystems?  :)
> 
> I would not take these unless Karsten agrees that he no longer wants to
> maintain this.

OK, I will send a private message to him asking for continuing maintainer
role. If there's no response from him by the new year, then it's safe to
route this through net tree instead (hence [PATCH net]).

Thanks.
  

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:49:54PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:32:09AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 04:14:18PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > He's no longer active maintaining ISDN/mISDN subsystem: his last message
> > > on kernel mailing lists was three years ago [1] and last commit activity
> > > from him was 1e1589ad8b5cb5 ("mISDN: Support DR6 indication in mISDNipac
> > > driver") in 2016 when he gave Acked-by: from his @b1-systems.de address.
> > > 
> > > Move him to CREDITS, as netdev people should already handle ISDN/mISDN
> > > patches.
> > > 
> > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0ee243a9-9937-ad26-0684-44b18e772662@linux-pingi.de/ [1]
> > > Cc: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
> > > Cc: Karsten Keil <keil@b1-systems.de>
> > > Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
> > 
> > Are you sure he's not active?  It doesn't take much work to keep an old
> > subsystem like this alive, last I remember, real changes were accepted
> > just fine.
> 
> As for LKML messages, yes; he doesn't post any new messages since 2020.
> 
> > 
> > Perhaps just don't send coding style cleanups to old subsystems?  :)
> > 
> > I would not take these unless Karsten agrees that he no longer wants to
> > maintain this.
> 
> OK, I will send a private message to him asking for continuing maintainer
> role. If there's no response from him by the new year, then it's safe to
> route this through net tree instead (hence [PATCH net]).

Why are you arbritrarily saying that "no response in 2 weeks, during the
time of the year almost all of Europe is on vacation, means we drop
someone from the MAINTAINERS file"?

Please slow down, relax, and don't do this.

greg k-h
  

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:54:02AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:49:54PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:32:09AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 04:14:18PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > > He's no longer active maintaining ISDN/mISDN subsystem: his last message
> > > > on kernel mailing lists was three years ago [1] and last commit activity
> > > > from him was 1e1589ad8b5cb5 ("mISDN: Support DR6 indication in mISDNipac
> > > > driver") in 2016 when he gave Acked-by: from his @b1-systems.de address.
> > > > 
> > > > Move him to CREDITS, as netdev people should already handle ISDN/mISDN
> > > > patches.
> > > > 
> > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0ee243a9-9937-ad26-0684-44b18e772662@linux-pingi.de/ [1]
> > > > Cc: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
> > > > Cc: Karsten Keil <keil@b1-systems.de>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
> > > 
> > > Are you sure he's not active?  It doesn't take much work to keep an old
> > > subsystem like this alive, last I remember, real changes were accepted
> > > just fine.
> > 
> > As for LKML messages, yes; he doesn't post any new messages since 2020.
> > 
> > > 
> > > Perhaps just don't send coding style cleanups to old subsystems?  :)
> > > 
> > > I would not take these unless Karsten agrees that he no longer wants to
> > > maintain this.
> > 
> > OK, I will send a private message to him asking for continuing maintainer
> > role. If there's no response from him by the new year, then it's safe to
> > route this through net tree instead (hence [PATCH net]).
> 
> Why are you arbritrarily saying that "no response in 2 weeks, during the
> time of the year almost all of Europe is on vacation, means we drop
> someone from the MAINTAINERS file"?
> 

Because I'm impatient. Maybe I can wait for right timing to reroll once
Karsten agrees to remove his MAINTAINERS entry.

Thanks.
  

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:23:07PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:54:02AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:49:54PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:32:09AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 04:14:18PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > > > He's no longer active maintaining ISDN/mISDN subsystem: his last message
> > > > > on kernel mailing lists was three years ago [1] and last commit activity
> > > > > from him was 1e1589ad8b5cb5 ("mISDN: Support DR6 indication in mISDNipac
> > > > > driver") in 2016 when he gave Acked-by: from his @b1-systems.de address.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Move him to CREDITS, as netdev people should already handle ISDN/mISDN
> > > > > patches.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0ee243a9-9937-ad26-0684-44b18e772662@linux-pingi.de/ [1]
> > > > > Cc: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
> > > > > Cc: Karsten Keil <keil@b1-systems.de>
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
> > > > 
> > > > Are you sure he's not active?  It doesn't take much work to keep an old
> > > > subsystem like this alive, last I remember, real changes were accepted
> > > > just fine.
> > > 
> > > As for LKML messages, yes; he doesn't post any new messages since 2020.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps just don't send coding style cleanups to old subsystems?  :)
> > > > 
> > > > I would not take these unless Karsten agrees that he no longer wants to
> > > > maintain this.
> > > 
> > > OK, I will send a private message to him asking for continuing maintainer
> > > role. If there's no response from him by the new year, then it's safe to
> > > route this through net tree instead (hence [PATCH net]).
> > 
> > Why are you arbritrarily saying that "no response in 2 weeks, during the
> > time of the year almost all of Europe is on vacation, means we drop
> > someone from the MAINTAINERS file"?
> > 
> 
> Because I'm impatient.

Then kernel development might not be the best thing to work on as
patience is required here.

> Maybe I can wait for right timing to reroll once
> Karsten agrees to remove his MAINTAINERS entry.

That's up to Karsten, not you.

Again, please relax, slow down, and perhaps work on something more
technical, like actual kernel fixes?

thanks,

greg k-h
  

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 12:53:36PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 06:23:07PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:54:02AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:49:54PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:32:09AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 04:14:18PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> > > > > > He's no longer active maintaining ISDN/mISDN subsystem: his last message
> > > > > > on kernel mailing lists was three years ago [1] and last commit activity
> > > > > > from him was 1e1589ad8b5cb5 ("mISDN: Support DR6 indication in mISDNipac
> > > > > > driver") in 2016 when he gave Acked-by: from his @b1-systems.de address.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Move him to CREDITS, as netdev people should already handle ISDN/mISDN
> > > > > > patches.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/0ee243a9-9937-ad26-0684-44b18e772662@linux-pingi.de/ [1]
> > > > > > Cc: Karsten Keil <isdn@linux-pingi.de>
> > > > > > Cc: Karsten Keil <keil@b1-systems.de>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are you sure he's not active?  It doesn't take much work to keep an old
> > > > > subsystem like this alive, last I remember, real changes were accepted
> > > > > just fine.
> > > > 
> > > > As for LKML messages, yes; he doesn't post any new messages since 2020.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps just don't send coding style cleanups to old subsystems?  :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would not take these unless Karsten agrees that he no longer wants to
> > > > > maintain this.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, I will send a private message to him asking for continuing maintainer
> > > > role. If there's no response from him by the new year, then it's safe to
> > > > route this through net tree instead (hence [PATCH net]).
> > > 
> > > Why are you arbritrarily saying that "no response in 2 weeks, during the
> > > time of the year almost all of Europe is on vacation, means we drop
> > > someone from the MAINTAINERS file"?
> > > 
> > 
> > Because I'm impatient.
> 
> Then kernel development might not be the best thing to work on as
> patience is required here.
> 
> > Maybe I can wait for right timing to reroll once
> > Karsten agrees to remove his MAINTAINERS entry.
> 
> That's up to Karsten, not you.
> 
> Again, please relax, slow down, and perhaps work on something more
> technical, like actual kernel fixes?

OK, thanks!