[v3] dt-bindings: riscv: deprecate riscv,isa

  intro
=====

When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.

Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
"rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
example.
Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.

versioning schemes
==================

"Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions

	As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
	extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
	they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
	repositories.

Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
this manner.

~boolean properties~ string array property
==========================================

If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
software.

Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
characters in the string.
Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
a new property will be required.

Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
crops up.
It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
define a scheme that enforces compatibility.

The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
the brave, or the foolish).

acpi
====

The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
explicit meaning to extensions.

parser simplicity
=================

Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
supports an extension becomes as simple as:
	of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")

vendor extensions
=================

Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
compatibility.
The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.

fin
===

Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.

As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
Linux.

Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
existing programs would be an ABI break.

CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
---
Changes in v3:
- Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
  size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
  (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
  for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
  advantages over a free-form string still apply.
- Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
  one to apply this).
---
 .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
 .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
  

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:10:46 +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> intro
> =====
> 
> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
> 
> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> example.
> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
> 
> versioning schemes
> ==================
> 
> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
> 
> 	As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
> 	extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
> 	they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
> 	repositories.
> 
> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> this manner.
> 
> ~boolean properties~ string array property
> ==========================================
> 
> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> software.
> 
> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> characters in the string.
> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> a new property will be required.
> 
> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> crops up.
> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> 
> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> the brave, or the foolish).
> 
> acpi
> ====
> 
> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> explicit meaning to extensions.
> 
> parser simplicity
> =================
> 
> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
> 	of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
> 
> vendor extensions
> =================
> 
> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> compatibility.
> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
> 
> fin
> ===
> 
> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
> 
> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> Linux.
> 
> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> existing programs would be an ABI break.
> 
> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> ---
> Changes in v3:
> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>   one to apply this).
> ---
>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> 

Reviewed-by: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
  

On 26 Jun 2023, at 11:10, Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
> 
> intro
> =====
> 
> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
> 
> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> example.
> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
> 
> versioning schemes
> ==================
> 
> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
> 
> As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
> extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
> they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
> repositories.
> 
> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> this manner.
> 
> ~boolean properties~ string array property
> ==========================================
> 
> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> software.
> 
> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> characters in the string.
> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> a new property will be required.
> 
> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> crops up.
> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> 
> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> the brave, or the foolish).
> 
> acpi
> ====
> 
> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> explicit meaning to extensions.

Who’s assigning GUIDs to extensions in that world? And I really don’t
want to see DT and ACPI diverge in basics like _describing what ISA
your processor has_.

As a non-Linux OS developer I am unhappy with this churn.

Jess

> parser simplicity
> =================
> 
> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
> of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
> 
> vendor extensions
> =================
> 
> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> compatibility.
> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
> 
> fin
> ===
> 
> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
> 
> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> Linux.
> 
> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> existing programs would be an ABI break.
> 
> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> ---
> Changes in v3:
> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>  size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>  (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>  for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>  advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>  one to apply this).
> ---
> .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
> .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
> 2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
> 
> allOf:
>   - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
> 
> properties:
>   compatible:
> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
>     description:
>       The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
> 
> -  riscv,isa:
> -    description:
> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> -
> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> -      have arisen over time.
> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> -
> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> -      lowercase.
> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> -
>   # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
>   # differ between individual CBO extensions
>   cache-op-block-size: false
> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
>       DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
>       in the system.
> 
> +oneOf:
> +  - required:
> +      - riscv,isa
> +  - required:
> +      - riscv,isa-base
> +
> +dependencies:
> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
> +
> required:
> -  - riscv,isa
>   - interrupt-controller
> 
> unevaluatedProperties: false
> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
>                 i-cache-sets = <128>;
>                 i-cache-size = <16384>;
>                 reg = <0>;
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
> +
>                 cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>                         #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                         compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
>                 i-tlb-size = <32>;
>                 mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
>                 reg = <1>;
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>                 tlb-split;
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> +
>                 cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>                         #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                         compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
>                 device_type = "cpu";
>                 reg = <0>;
>                 compatible = "riscv";
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>                 mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> +
>                 interrupt-controller {
>                         #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                         interrupt-controller;
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
> +
> +maintainers:
> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
> +
> +description: |
> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
> +  are "vendor" extensions.
> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
> +  given extension.
> +
> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
> +  See the "i" property for more information.
> +
> +select:
> +  properties:
> +    compatible:
> +      contains:
> +        const: riscv
> +
> +properties:
> +  riscv,isa:
> +    description:
> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> +
> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> +      have arisen over time.
> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> +
> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> +      lowercase.
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> +    deprecated: true
> +
> +  riscv,isa-base:
> +    description:
> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +    enum:
> +      - rv32i
> +      - rv64i
> +
> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> +    minItems: 1
> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> +    items:
> +      anyOf:
> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> +        - const: i
> +          description: |
> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
> +            counter access.
> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
> +
> +        - const: m
> +          description:
> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: a
> +          description:
> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: f
> +          description:
> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: d
> +          description:
> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: q
> +          description:
> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: c
> +          description:
> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: v
> +          description:
> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
> +
> +        - const: h
> +          description:
> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
> +        - const: smaia
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> +
> +        - const: ssaia
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> +
> +        - const: sscofpmf
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
> +
> +        - const: sstc
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
> +
> +        - const: svinval
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: svnapot
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> +            privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: svpbmt
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
> +            ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: zba
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> +            riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbb
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbc
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbs
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zicbom
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicbop
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
> +            riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicboz
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicntr
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: zicsr
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: zifencei
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: zihintpause
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
> +
> +        - const: zihpm
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: ztso
> +          description:
> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
> +            riscv-isa-manual.
> +
> +additionalProperties: true
> +...
> -- 
> 2.40.1
>
  

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
>
> intro
> =====
>
> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
>
> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> example.
> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
>
> versioning schemes
> ==================
>
> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
>
>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
>         repositories.
>
> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> this manner.
>
> ~boolean properties~ string array property
> ==========================================
>
> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> software.
>
> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> characters in the string.
> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> a new property will be required.
>
> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> crops up.
> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
>
> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> the brave, or the foolish).
>
> acpi
> ====
>
> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> explicit meaning to extensions.

Drop this paragraph on ACPI.

We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.

Regards,
Anup

>
> parser simplicity
> =================
>
> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
>
> vendor extensions
> =================
>
> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> compatibility.
> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
>
> fin
> ===
>
> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
>
> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> Linux.
>
> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> existing programs would be an ABI break.
>
> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> ---
> Changes in v3:
> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>   one to apply this).
> ---
>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
>
>  allOf:
>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
>
>  properties:
>    compatible:
> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
>      description:
>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
>
> -  riscv,isa:
> -    description:
> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> -
> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> -      have arisen over time.
> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> -
> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> -      lowercase.
> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> -
>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
>    cache-op-block-size: false
> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
>        in the system.
>
> +oneOf:
> +  - required:
> +      - riscv,isa
> +  - required:
> +      - riscv,isa-base
> +
> +dependencies:
> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
> +
>  required:
> -  - riscv,isa
>    - interrupt-controller
>
>  unevaluatedProperties: false
> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
>                  reg = <0>;
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
> +
>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
>                  reg = <1>;
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>                  tlb-split;
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> +
>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
>                  device_type = "cpu";
>                  reg = <0>;
>                  compatible = "riscv";
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> +
>                  interrupt-controller {
>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                          interrupt-controller;
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
> +
> +maintainers:
> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
> +
> +description: |
> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
> +  are "vendor" extensions.
> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
> +  given extension.
> +
> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
> +  See the "i" property for more information.
> +
> +select:
> +  properties:
> +    compatible:
> +      contains:
> +        const: riscv
> +
> +properties:
> +  riscv,isa:
> +    description:
> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> +
> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> +      have arisen over time.
> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> +
> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> +      lowercase.
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> +    deprecated: true
> +
> +  riscv,isa-base:
> +    description:
> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +    enum:
> +      - rv32i
> +      - rv64i
> +
> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> +    minItems: 1
> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> +    items:
> +      anyOf:
> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> +        - const: i
> +          description: |
> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
> +            counter access.
> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
> +
> +        - const: m
> +          description:
> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: a
> +          description:
> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: f
> +          description:
> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: d
> +          description:
> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: q
> +          description:
> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: c
> +          description:
> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: v
> +          description:
> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
> +
> +        - const: h
> +          description:
> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
> +        - const: smaia
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> +
> +        - const: ssaia
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> +
> +        - const: sscofpmf
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
> +
> +        - const: sstc
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
> +
> +        - const: svinval
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: svnapot
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> +            privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: svpbmt
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
> +            ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: zba
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> +            riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbb
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbc
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbs
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zicbom
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicbop
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
> +            riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicboz
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicntr
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: zicsr
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: zifencei
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: zihintpause
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
> +
> +        - const: zihpm
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: ztso
> +          description:
> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
> +            riscv-isa-manual.
> +
> +additionalProperties: true
> +...
> --
> 2.40.1
>
  

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 11:08:43PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:

> > acpi
> > ====
> >
> > The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> > but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> > explicit meaning to extensions.
> 
> Drop this paragraph on ACPI.

Sure.
  

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:43 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
>>
>> intro
>> =====
>>
>> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
>> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
>> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
>> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
>>
>> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
>> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
>> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
>> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
>> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
>> example.
>> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
>> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
>> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
>>
>> versioning schemes
>> ==================
>>
>> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
>> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
>> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
>> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
>> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
>> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
>> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
>> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
>> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
>>
>>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
>>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
>>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
>>         repositories.
>>
>> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
>> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
>> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
>> this manner.
>>
>> ~boolean properties~ string array property
>> ==========================================
>>
>> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
>> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
>> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
>> software.
>>
>> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
>> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
>> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
>> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
>> characters in the string.
>> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
>> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
>> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
>> a new property will be required.
>>
>> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
>> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
>> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
>> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
>> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
>> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
>> crops up.
>> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
>> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
>>
>> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
>> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
>> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
>> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
>> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
>> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
>> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
>> the brave, or the foolish).
>>
>> acpi
>> ====
>>
>> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
>> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
>> explicit meaning to extensions.
>
> Drop this paragraph on ACPI.
>
> We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
> There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.

Which spec are we following for the ACPI ISA string?

> Regards,
> Anup
>
>>
>> parser simplicity
>> =================
>>
>> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
>> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
>> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
>> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
>> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
>> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
>> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
>> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
>> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
>>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
>>
>> vendor extensions
>> =================
>>
>> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
>> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
>> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
>> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
>> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
>> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
>> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
>> compatibility.
>> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
>> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
>>
>> fin
>> ===
>>
>> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
>> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
>> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
>>
>> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
>> Linux.
>>
>> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
>> existing programs would be an ABI break.
>>
>> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
>> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
>> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
>> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
>> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
>> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
>> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
>> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
>> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
>> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
>> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
>> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
>> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
>> ---
>> Changes in v3:
>> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
>> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>>   one to apply this).
>> ---
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
>>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
>>
>>  allOf:
>>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
>> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
>>
>>  properties:
>>    compatible:
>> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
>>      description:
>>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
>>
>> -  riscv,isa:
>> -    description:
>> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
>> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>> -
>> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>> -      have arisen over time.
>> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>> -
>> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>> -      lowercase.
>> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>> -
>>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
>>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
>>    cache-op-block-size: false
>> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
>>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
>>        in the system.
>>
>> +oneOf:
>> +  - required:
>> +      - riscv,isa
>> +  - required:
>> +      - riscv,isa-base
>> +
>> +dependencies:
>> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
>> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
>> +
>>  required:
>> -  - riscv,isa
>>    - interrupt-controller
>>
>>  unevaluatedProperties: false
>> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
>>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
>>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
>>                  reg = <0>;
>> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
>> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
>> +
>>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
>>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
>>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
>>                  reg = <1>;
>> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>>                  tlb-split;
>> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> +
>>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
>>                  device_type = "cpu";
>>                  reg = <0>;
>>                  compatible = "riscv";
>> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
>> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> +
>>                  interrupt-controller {
>>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>>                          interrupt-controller;
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
>> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
>> +%YAML 1.2
>> +---
>> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
>> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>> +
>> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
>> +
>> +maintainers:
>> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
>> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
>> +
>> +description: |
>> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
>> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
>> +  are "vendor" extensions.
>> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
>> +  given extension.
>> +
>> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
>> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
>> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
>> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
>> +  See the "i" property for more information.
>> +
>> +select:
>> +  properties:
>> +    compatible:
>> +      contains:
>> +        const: riscv
>> +
>> +properties:
>> +  riscv,isa:
>> +    description:
>> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
>> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>> +
>> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>> +      have arisen over time.
>> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>> +
>> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>> +      lowercase.
>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>> +    deprecated: true
>> +
>> +  riscv,isa-base:
>> +    description:
>> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
>> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> +    enum:
>> +      - rv32i
>> +      - rv64i
>> +
>> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
>> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
>> +    minItems: 1
>> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
>> +    items:
>> +      anyOf:
>> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
>> +        - const: i
>> +          description: |
>> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
>> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
>> +            counter access.
>> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
>> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
>> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
>> +
>> +        - const: m
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
>> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> +            specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: a
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
>> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: f
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
>> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> +            specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: d
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
>> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> +            specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: q
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
>> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> +            specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: c
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
>> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: v
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
>> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
>> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
>> +
>> +        - const: h
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
>> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>> +
>> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
>> +        - const: smaia
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
>> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
>> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>> +
>> +        - const: ssaia
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
>> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
>> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>> +
>> +        - const: sscofpmf
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
>> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
>> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
>> +
>> +        - const: sstc
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
>> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
>> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
>> +
>> +        - const: svinval
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
>> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
>> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: svnapot
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
>> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>> +            privileged ISA specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: svpbmt
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
>> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
>> +            ISA specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: zba
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
>> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
>> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
>> +            riscv-bitmanip.
>> +
>> +        - const: zbb
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
>> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
>> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> +
>> +        - const: zbc
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
>> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
>> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> +
>> +        - const: zbs
>> +          description: |
>> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
>> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
>> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> +
>> +        - const: zicbom
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
>> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>> +
>> +        - const: zicbop
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
>> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
>> +            riscv-CMOs.
>> +
>> +        - const: zicboz
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
>> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>> +
>> +        - const: zicntr
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
>> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> +            specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: zicsr
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
>> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: zifencei
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
>> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> +            specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: zihintpause
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
>> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
>> +
>> +        - const: zihpm
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
>> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> +            specification.
>> +
>> +        - const: ztso
>> +          description:
>> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
>> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
>> +            riscv-isa-manual.
>> +
>> +additionalProperties: true
>> +...
>> --
>> 2.40.1
>>
  

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, at 6:10 AM, Conor Dooley wrote:
> intro
> =====
>
> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
>
> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> example.
> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
>
> versioning schemes
> ==================
>
> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
>
> 	As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
> 	extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
> 	they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
> 	repositories.
>
> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> this manner.
>
> ~boolean properties~ string array property
> ==========================================
>
> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> software.
>
> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> characters in the string.
> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> a new property will be required.
>
> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> crops up.
> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
>
> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single

no longer individual properties

> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible

Under what circumstances is a device tree which declares support for a
superset extension (e.g. m) required to also declare support for its subsets
(e.g. zmmul)?  There are compatibility issues in both directions.

Proposal: If an extension X is a superset of an extension Y and X is present
in riscv,isa-extensions, Y must also be present if Y was ratified or added
to the schema before X, but need not also be present if Y was ratified after
or at the same time as X.  If X "depends on" Y, then Y must be present in
riscv,isa-extensions even if X and Y were ratified at the same time.

> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> the brave, or the foolish).
>
> acpi
> ====
>
> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> explicit meaning to extensions.
>
> parser simplicity
> =================
>
> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
> 	of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
>
> vendor extensions
> =================
>
> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> compatibility.
> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.

How are vendor extension names allocated?  Will any proposed name for a
vendor extension pass through linux-riscv@ before it shows up in the wild,
or are vendors expected to allocate extension names unilaterally?  Is it
worth creating an experimental-* namespace for prototype implementations
of unreleased extensions?

> fin
> ===
>
> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
>
> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> Linux.
>
> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> existing programs would be an ABI break.
>
> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> ---
> Changes in v3:
> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>   one to apply this).
> ---
>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml 
> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
> 
>  allOf:
>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
> 
>  properties:
>    compatible:
> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
>      description:
>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
> 
> -  riscv,isa:
> -    description:
> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> -
> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> -      have arisen over time.
> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> -
> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> -      lowercase.
> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> -    pattern: 
> ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> -
>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the 
> sizes
>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
>    cache-op-block-size: false
> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
>        in the system.
> 
> +oneOf:
> +  - required:
> +      - riscv,isa
> +  - required:
> +      - riscv,isa-base
> +
> +dependencies:
> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
> +
>  required:
> -  - riscv,isa
>    - interrupt-controller
> 
>  unevaluatedProperties: false
> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
>                  reg = <0>;
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
> +
>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
>                  reg = <1>;
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>                  tlb-split;
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> +
>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
>                  device_type = "cpu";
>                  reg = <0>;
>                  compatible = "riscv";
> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> +
>                  interrupt-controller {
>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>                          interrupt-controller;
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml 
> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
> +%YAML 1.2
> +---
> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> +
> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
> +
> +maintainers:
> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
> +
> +description: |
> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and 
> others
> +  are "vendor" extensions.
> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart 
> supports a
> +  given extension.
> +
> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour 
> can be
> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their 
> originally
> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm 
> extensions.
> +  See the "i" property for more information.
> +
> +select:
> +  properties:
> +    compatible:
> +      contains:
> +        const: riscv
> +
> +properties:
> +  riscv,isa:
> +    description:
> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> +
> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> +      have arisen over time.
> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> +
> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> +      lowercase.
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> +    pattern: 
> ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> +    deprecated: true
> +
> +  riscv,isa-base:
> +    description:
> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 
> 20191213
> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +    enum:
> +      - rv32i
> +      - rv64i
> +
> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> +    minItems: 1
> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> +    items:
> +      anyOf:
> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> +        - const: i
> +          description: |
> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 
> 20191213
> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the 
> exception of
> +            counter access.
> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 
> 20191213
> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into 
> the
> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.

I think this may belong in the description of zicsr?  rdcycle in 20191213
is a special case of csrrs, which is in zicsr not the base.

> +
> +        - const: m
> +          description:
> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and 
> division, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: a
> +          description:
> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as 
> ratified in the
> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: f
> +          description:
> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating 
> point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.

Do we want to be able to describe the K210 in the new schema?  I believe
that it implements the 2.0 F and D extensions, which are neither forward
nor backward compatible with the ratified ones.

#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
    long a,b;
    asm("fsub.s fa0,fa0,fa0\n"
        "fdiv.s fa0,fa0,fa0\n"
        "fmv.x.d %0,fa0\n"
        "fcvt.s.w fa1,x0\n"
        "fmax.s fa1,fa1,fa0\n"
        "fmv.x.d %1,fa1\n" : "=r" (a), "=r" (b));
    printf("box(nan) = %lx\nmax(0,nan) = %lx\n", a, b);
    return 0;
}

> +
> +        - const: d
> +          description:
> +            The standard D extension for double-precision 
> floating-point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: q
> +          description:
> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision 
> floating-point, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: c
> +          description:
> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as 
> ratified in
> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: v
> +          description:
> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes 
> vfmv.v.f
> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
> +
> +        - const: h
> +          description:
> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in 
> the 20191213
> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
> +        - const: smaia
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the 
> advanced
> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and 
> behavioural
> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge 
> pull
> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> +
> +        - const: ssaia
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the 
> advanced
> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit 
> ccbddab
> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of 
> riscv-aia.
> +
> +        - const: sscofpmf
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count 
> overflow
> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 
> ("Add ability
> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of 
> riscv-count-overflow.
> +
> +        - const: sstc
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time 
> compare as
> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually 
> trigger
> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
> +
> +        - const: svinval
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for 
> fine-grained
> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 
> 20191213
> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: svnapot
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version 
> of the
> +            privileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: svpbmt
> +          description:
> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for 
> page-based
> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the 
> privileged
> +            ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: zba
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address 
> generation
> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 
> ("Merge pull
> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> +            riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbb
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic 
> bit-manipulation
> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 
> from
> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbc
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull 
> request
> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of 
> riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zbs
> +          description: |
> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull 
> request #158
> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of 
> riscv-bitmanip.
> +
> +        - const: zicbom
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management 
> operations as
> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of 
> riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicbop
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch 
> instructions
> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") 
> of
> +            riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicboz
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as 
> ratified
> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of 
> riscv-CMOs.
> +
> +        - const: zicntr
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and 
> timers, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: zicsr
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status 
> register
> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
> +
> +        - const: zifencei
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch 
> fence, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: zihintpause
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as 
> ratified in
> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the 
> riscv-isa-manual.
> +
> +        - const: zihpm
> +          description:
> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance 
> counters, as
> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> +            specification.
> +
> +        - const: ztso
> +          description:
> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as 
> ratified
> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
> +            riscv-isa-manual.

There are quite a few extension names defined in ratified specifications
that aren't in that list yet.  Would there be interest in adding them or
are we waiting for specific conditions to be met?

In particular several subsystems depend on "ziccif" from the profiles
spec but we haven't previously had a way to check or document that
dependency.

> +additionalProperties: true
> +...
> -- 
> 2.40.1
>
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On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 5:40 PM Stefan O'Rear <sorear@fastmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, at 6:10 AM, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > intro
> > =====
> >
> > When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> > ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> > incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> > Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
> >
> > Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> > Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> > the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> > With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> > "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> > example.
> > Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> > perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> > counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
> >
> > versioning schemes
> > ==================
> >
> > "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> > may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> > Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> > need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> > to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> > version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> > collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> > on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> > https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
> >
> >       As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
> >       extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
> >       they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
> >       repositories.
> >
> > Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> > numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> > require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> > this manner.
> >
> > ~boolean properties~ string array property
> > ==========================================
> >
> > If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> > from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> > hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> > software.
> >
> > Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> > allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> > extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> > systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> > characters in the string.
> > Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> > this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> > meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> > a new property will be required.
> >
> > Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> > in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> > so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> > features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> > somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> > broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> > crops up.
> > It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> > define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> >
> > The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
>
> no longer individual properties
>
> > string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> > as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> > enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
>
> Under what circumstances is a device tree which declares support for a
> superset extension (e.g. m) required to also declare support for its subsets
> (e.g. zmmul)?  There are compatibility issues in both directions.
>
> Proposal: If an extension X is a superset of an extension Y and X is present
> in riscv,isa-extensions, Y must also be present if Y was ratified or added
> to the schema before X, but need not also be present if Y was ratified after
> or at the same time as X.  If X "depends on" Y, then Y must be present in
> riscv,isa-extensions even if X and Y were ratified at the same time.
>
> > with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> > would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> > That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> > the brave, or the foolish).
> >
> > acpi
> > ====
> >
> > The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> > but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> > explicit meaning to extensions.
> >
> > parser simplicity
> > =================
> >
> > Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> > can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> > similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> > bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> > Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> > unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> > parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> > dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> > supports an extension becomes as simple as:
> >       of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
> >
> > vendor extensions
> > =================
> >
> > Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> > oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> > At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> > specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> > interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> > extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> > than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> > compatibility.
> > The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> > extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
>
> How are vendor extension names allocated?  Will any proposed name for a
> vendor extension pass through linux-riscv@ before it shows up in the wild,
> or are vendors expected to allocate extension names unilaterally?  Is it
> worth creating an experimental-* namespace for prototype implementations
> of unreleased extensions?
>
> > fin
> > ===
> >
> > Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> > riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> > not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
> >
> > As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> > Linux.
> >
> > Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> > existing programs would be an ABI break.
> >
> > CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> > CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> > CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> > CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> > CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> > CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> > CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> > CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> > CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> > CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> > CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> > CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> > CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> > CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> > CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> > CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> > CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> > Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> > ---
> > Changes in v3:
> > - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
> >   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
> >   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
> >   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
> >   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> > - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
> >   one to apply this).
> > ---
> >  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
> >  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> > index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> > @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
> >
> >  allOf:
> >    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
> > +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
> >
> >  properties:
> >    compatible:
> > @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
> >      description:
> >        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
> >
> > -  riscv,isa:
> > -    description:
> > -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> > -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> > -      User-Level ISA document, available from
> > -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> > -
> > -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> > -      have arisen over time.
> > -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> > -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> > -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> > -
> > -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> > -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> > -      lowercase.
> > -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> > -    pattern:
> > ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> > -
> >    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the
> > sizes
> >    # differ between individual CBO extensions
> >    cache-op-block-size: false
> > @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
> >        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
> >        in the system.
> >
> > +oneOf:
> > +  - required:
> > +      - riscv,isa
> > +  - required:
> > +      - riscv,isa-base
> > +
> > +dependencies:
> > +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
> > +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
> > +
> >  required:
> > -  - riscv,isa
> >    - interrupt-controller
> >
> >  unevaluatedProperties: false
> > @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
> >                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
> >                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
> >                  reg = <0>;
> > -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
> > +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> > +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
> > +
> >                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
> >                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> > @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
> >                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
> >                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
> >                  reg = <1>;
> > -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >                  tlb-split;
> > +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> > +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> > +
> >                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
> >                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> > @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
> >                  device_type = "cpu";
> >                  reg = <0>;
> >                  compatible = "riscv";
> > -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
> > +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> > +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> > +
> >                  interrupt-controller {
> >                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >                          interrupt-controller;
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> > b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> > @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
> > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
> > +%YAML 1.2
> > +---
> > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
> > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > +
> > +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
> > +
> > +maintainers:
> > +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> > +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
> > +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
> > +
> > +description: |
> > +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
> > +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and
> > others
> > +  are "vendor" extensions.
> > +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart
> > supports a
> > +  given extension.
> > +
> > +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour
> > can be
> > +  made without the creation of a new extension.
> > +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their
> > originally
> > +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm
> > extensions.
> > +  See the "i" property for more information.
> > +
> > +select:
> > +  properties:
> > +    compatible:
> > +      contains:
> > +        const: riscv
> > +
> > +properties:
> > +  riscv,isa:
> > +    description:
> > +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> > +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> > +      User-Level ISA document, available from
> > +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> > +
> > +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> > +      have arisen over time.
> > +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> > +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> > +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> > +
> > +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> > +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> > +      lowercase.
> > +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> > +    pattern:
> > ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> > +    deprecated: true
> > +
> > +  riscv,isa-base:
> > +    description:
> > +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the
> > 20191213
> > +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> > +    enum:
> > +      - rv32i
> > +      - rv64i
> > +
> > +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> > +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> > +    minItems: 1
> > +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> > +    items:
> > +      anyOf:
> > +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> > +        - const: i
> > +          description: |
> > +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the
> > 20191213
> > +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the
> > exception of
> > +            counter access.
> > +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the
> > 20191213
> > +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into
> > the
> > +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
>
> I think this may belong in the description of zicsr?  rdcycle in 20191213
> is a special case of csrrs, which is in zicsr not the base.
>
> > +
> > +        - const: m
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and
> > division, as
> > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > +            specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: a
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as
> > ratified in the
> > +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: f
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating
> > point, as
> > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > +            specification.
>
> Do we want to be able to describe the K210 in the new schema?  I believe
> that it implements the 2.0 F and D extensions, which are neither forward
> nor backward compatible with the ratified ones.
>
> #include <stdio.h>
> int main() {
>     long a,b;
>     asm("fsub.s fa0,fa0,fa0\n"
>         "fdiv.s fa0,fa0,fa0\n"
>         "fmv.x.d %0,fa0\n"
>         "fcvt.s.w fa1,x0\n"
>         "fmax.s fa1,fa1,fa0\n"
>         "fmv.x.d %1,fa1\n" : "=r" (a), "=r" (b));
>     printf("box(nan) = %lx\nmax(0,nan) = %lx\n", a, b);
>     return 0;
> }
>
> > +
> > +        - const: d
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard D extension for double-precision
> > floating-point, as
> > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > +            specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: q
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision
> > floating-point, as
> > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > +            specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: c
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as
> > ratified in
> > +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: v
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
> > +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes
> > vfmv.v.f
> > +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
> > +
> > +        - const: h
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in
> > the 20191213
> > +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> > +
> > +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically

The multi-letter extensions name should match(ignoring case) the name
of the frozen/ratified or
vendor specific extension name. Correct ?

> > +        - const: smaia
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the
> > advanced
> > +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and
> > behavioural
> > +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge
> > pull
> > +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> > +
> > +        - const: ssaia
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the
> > advanced
> > +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
> > +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit
> > ccbddab
> > +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of
> > riscv-aia.
> > +
> > +        - const: sscofpmf
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count
> > overflow
> > +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0
> > ("Add ability
> > +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of
> > riscv-count-overflow.
> > +
> > +        - const: sstc
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time
> > compare as
> > +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually
> > trigger
> > +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
> > +
> > +        - const: svinval
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for
> > fine-grained
> > +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the
> > 20191213
> > +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: svnapot
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
> > +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version
> > of the
> > +            privileged ISA specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: svpbmt
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for
> > page-based
> > +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> > privileged
> > +            ISA specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: zba
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address
> > generation
> > +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919
> > ("Merge pull
> > +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> > +            riscv-bitmanip.
> > +
> > +        - const: zbb
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic
> > bit-manipulation
> > +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
> > from
> > +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> > +
> > +        - const: zbc
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
> > +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
> > request
> > +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> > riscv-bitmanip.
> > +
> > +        - const: zbs
> > +          description: |
> > +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
> > +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
> > request #158
> > +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> > riscv-bitmanip.
> > +
> > +        - const: zicbom
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management
> > operations as
> > +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
> > riscv-CMOs.
> > +
> > +        - const: zicbop
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch
> > instructions
> > +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf")
> > of
> > +            riscv-CMOs.
> > +
> > +        - const: zicboz
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as
> > ratified
> > +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
> > riscv-CMOs.
> > +
> > +        - const: zicntr
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and
> > timers, as
> > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > +            specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: zicsr
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status
> > register
> > +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> > +            unprivileged ISA specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: zifencei
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch
> > fence, as
> > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > +            specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: zihintpause
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as
> > ratified in
> > +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the
> > riscv-isa-manual.
> > +
> > +        - const: zihpm
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance
> > counters, as
> > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > +            specification.
> > +
> > +        - const: ztso
> > +          description:
> > +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as
> > ratified
> > +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
> > +            riscv-isa-manual.
>
> There are quite a few extension names defined in ratified specifications
> that aren't in that list yet.  Would there be interest in adding them or
> are we waiting for specific conditions to be met?
>
> In particular several subsystems depend on "ziccif" from the profiles
> spec but we haven't previously had a way to check or document that
> dependency.
>
> > +additionalProperties: true
> > +...
> > --
> > 2.40.1
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv
  

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:23 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:43 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> intro
> >> =====
> >>
> >> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> >> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> >> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> >> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
> >>
> >> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> >> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> >> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> >> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> >> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> >> example.
> >> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> >> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> >> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
> >>
> >> versioning schemes
> >> ==================
> >>
> >> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> >> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> >> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> >> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> >> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> >> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> >> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> >> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> >> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
> >>
> >>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
> >>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
> >>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
> >>         repositories.
> >>
> >> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> >> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> >> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> >> this manner.
> >>
> >> ~boolean properties~ string array property
> >> ==========================================
> >>
> >> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> >> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> >> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> >> software.
> >>
> >> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> >> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> >> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> >> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> >> characters in the string.
> >> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> >> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> >> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> >> a new property will be required.
> >>
> >> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> >> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> >> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> >> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> >> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> >> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> >> crops up.
> >> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> >> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> >>
> >> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> >> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> >> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> >> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> >> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> >> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> >> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> >> the brave, or the foolish).
> >>
> >> acpi
> >> ====
> >>
> >> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> >> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> >> explicit meaning to extensions.
> >
> > Drop this paragraph on ACPI.
> >
> > We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
> > There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.
>
> Which spec are we following for the ACPI ISA string?

ACPI RHCT follows the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
defined by the RISC-V unpriv spec. I understand that there are
unresolved issues in the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
which should be addressed by RVI and we should also try our
best to have this fixed in the spec.

In any case, ACPI spec is owned by UEFI forum so it does
not make sense to define/recommend anything for ACPI in
DT bindings.

Regards,
Anup



>
> > Regards,
> > Anup
> >
> >>
> >> parser simplicity
> >> =================
> >>
> >> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> >> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> >> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> >> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> >> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> >> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> >> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> >> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> >> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
> >>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
> >>
> >> vendor extensions
> >> =================
> >>
> >> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> >> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> >> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> >> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> >> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> >> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> >> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> >> compatibility.
> >> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> >> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
> >>
> >> fin
> >> ===
> >>
> >> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> >> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> >> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
> >>
> >> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> >> Linux.
> >>
> >> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> >> existing programs would be an ABI break.
> >>
> >> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> >> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> >> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> >> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> >> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> >> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> >> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> >> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> >> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> >> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> >> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> >> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> >> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> >> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> >> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> >> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> >> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> >> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> >> ---
> >> Changes in v3:
> >> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
> >>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
> >>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
> >>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
> >>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> >> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
> >>   one to apply this).
> >> ---
> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
> >>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
> >>
> >>  allOf:
> >>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
> >> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
> >>
> >>  properties:
> >>    compatible:
> >> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
> >>      description:
> >>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
> >>
> >> -  riscv,isa:
> >> -    description:
> >> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> >> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> >> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
> >> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> >> -
> >> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> >> -      have arisen over time.
> >> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> >> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> >> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> >> -
> >> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> >> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> >> -      lowercase.
> >> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> >> -
> >>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
> >>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
> >>    cache-op-block-size: false
> >> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
> >>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
> >>        in the system.
> >>
> >> +oneOf:
> >> +  - required:
> >> +      - riscv,isa
> >> +  - required:
> >> +      - riscv,isa-base
> >> +
> >> +dependencies:
> >> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
> >> +
> >>  required:
> >> -  - riscv,isa
> >>    - interrupt-controller
> >>
> >>  unevaluatedProperties: false
> >> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
> >>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
> >>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
> >>                  reg = <0>;
> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
> >> +
> >>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> >> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
> >>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
> >>                  reg = <1>;
> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >>                  tlb-split;
> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> >> +
> >>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> >> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
> >>                  device_type = "cpu";
> >>                  reg = <0>;
> >>                  compatible = "riscv";
> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> >> +
> >>                  interrupt-controller {
> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >>                          interrupt-controller;
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >> new file mode 100644
> >> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
> >> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
> >> +%YAML 1.2
> >> +---
> >> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
> >> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> >> +
> >> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
> >> +
> >> +maintainers:
> >> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> >> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
> >> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
> >> +
> >> +description: |
> >> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
> >> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
> >> +  are "vendor" extensions.
> >> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
> >> +  given extension.
> >> +
> >> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
> >> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
> >> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
> >> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
> >> +  See the "i" property for more information.
> >> +
> >> +select:
> >> +  properties:
> >> +    compatible:
> >> +      contains:
> >> +        const: riscv
> >> +
> >> +properties:
> >> +  riscv,isa:
> >> +    description:
> >> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> >> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> >> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
> >> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> >> +
> >> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> >> +      have arisen over time.
> >> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> >> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> >> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> >> +
> >> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> >> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> >> +      lowercase.
> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> >> +    deprecated: true
> >> +
> >> +  riscv,isa-base:
> >> +    description:
> >> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
> >> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> +    enum:
> >> +      - rv32i
> >> +      - rv64i
> >> +
> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> >> +    minItems: 1
> >> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> >> +    items:
> >> +      anyOf:
> >> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> >> +        - const: i
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
> >> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
> >> +            counter access.
> >> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
> >> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
> >> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: m
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> +            specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: a
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
> >> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: f
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> +            specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: d
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> +            specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: q
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> +            specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: c
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
> >> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: v
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
> >> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
> >> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: h
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> >> +
> >> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
> >> +        - const: smaia
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> >> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
> >> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
> >> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: ssaia
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> >> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
> >> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
> >> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: sscofpmf
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
> >> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
> >> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: sstc
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
> >> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
> >> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: svinval
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
> >> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: svnapot
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
> >> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> >> +            privileged ISA specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: svpbmt
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
> >> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
> >> +            ISA specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zba
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
> >> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
> >> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> >> +            riscv-bitmanip.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zbb
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
> >> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
> >> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zbc
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
> >> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
> >> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zbs
> >> +          description: |
> >> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
> >> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
> >> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zicbom
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
> >> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zicbop
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
> >> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
> >> +            riscv-CMOs.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zicboz
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
> >> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zicntr
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> +            specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zicsr
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
> >> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> >> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zifencei
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> +            specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zihintpause
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
> >> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: zihpm
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> +            specification.
> >> +
> >> +        - const: ztso
> >> +          description:
> >> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
> >> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
> >> +            riscv-isa-manual.
> >> +
> >> +additionalProperties: true
> >> +...
> >> --
> >> 2.40.1
> >>
  

Hey Atish, Stefan,

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 11:35:10PM -0700, Atish Patra wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 5:40 PM Stefan O'Rear <sorear@fastmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, at 6:10 AM, Conor Dooley wrote:

> > > Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> > > in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> > > so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> > > features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> > > somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> > > broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> > > crops up.
> > > It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> > > define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> > >
> > > The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> >
> > no longer individual properties
> >
> > > string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> > > as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> > > enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> >
> > Under what circumstances is a device tree which declares support for a
> > superset extension (e.g. m) required to also declare support for its subsets
> > (e.g. zmmul)?  There are compatibility issues in both directions.
> >
> > Proposal: If an extension X is a superset of an extension Y and X is present
> > in riscv,isa-extensions, Y must also be present if Y was ratified or added
> > to the schema before X, but need not also be present if Y was ratified after
> > or at the same time as X.  If X "depends on" Y, then Y must be present in
> > riscv,isa-extensions even if X and Y were ratified at the same time.

Yes, I think that this all makes sense from a compatibility point of
view. Splitting it up:

> > If an extension X is a superset of an extension Y and X is present
> > in riscv,isa-extensions, Y must also be present if Y was ratified or added
> > to the schema before X

This makes total sense from a "being nice to" software point of view.

> > but need not also be present if Y was ratified after
> > or at the same time as X.

It may make sense to reduce this to only after, or not permit the
supersets at all where they are ratified alongside their subsets.
Cross that bridge when we come to it perhaps.

> > If X "depends on" Y, then Y must be present in
> > riscv,isa-extensions even if X and Y were ratified at the same tim

For Linux, this is already the case for F & D. I think that's a good
policy to follow.

> > >
> > > vendor extensions
> > > =================
> > >
> > > Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> > > oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> > > At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> > > specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> > > interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> > > extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> > > than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> > > compatibility.
> > > The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> > > extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
> >
> > How are vendor extension names allocated?  Will any proposed name for a
> > vendor extension pass through linux-riscv@ before it shows up in the wild,
> > or are vendors expected to allocate extension names unilaterally?

The same way any other dt-binding works, it's no different in that
respect to compatible strings.

> > Is it
> > worth creating an experimental-* namespace for prototype implementations
> > of unreleased extensions?

IMO, people are free to do whatever they like in their own development
trees. I don't really know why we'd introduce stuff in dt-bindings for
things that are only in an experimental state.

> > > +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> > > +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> > > +    minItems: 1
> > > +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> > > +    items:
> > > +      anyOf:
> > > +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> > > +        - const: i
> > > +          description: |
> > > +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the
> > > 20191213
> > > +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the
> > > exception of
> > > +            counter access.
> > > +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the
> > > 20191213
> > > +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into
> > > the
> > > +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
> >
> > I think this may belong in the description of zicsr?  rdcycle in 20191213
> > is a special case of csrrs, which is in zicsr not the base.

Sorry, this is a bit unclear. Do you mean that the sentence you have
provided here should be in the Zicsr entry?

> > > +        - const: m
> > > +          description:
> > > +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and
> > > division, as
> > > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > > +            specification.
> > > +
> > > +        - const: a
> > > +          description:
> > > +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as
> > > ratified in the
> > > +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> > > +
> > > +        - const: f
> > > +          description:
> > > +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating
> > > point, as
> > > +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> > > +            specification.
> >
> > Do we want to be able to describe the K210 in the new schema?  I believe
> > that it implements the 2.0 F and D extensions, which are neither forward
> > nor backward compatible with the ratified ones.

If it is not compatible, then it should not claim to be :)
We currently report the thing as implementing the same F extension as
anything else that claims to support F, but I don't think we should be
adding a new strictly defined property if it does not apply. Kinda
defeats the purpose I think. I'm not sure whether it should get a new
property, or continue (mis)using riscv,isa, in that case.

> > #include <stdio.h>
> > int main() {
> >     long a,b;
> >     asm("fsub.s fa0,fa0,fa0\n"
> >         "fdiv.s fa0,fa0,fa0\n"
> >         "fmv.x.d %0,fa0\n"
> >         "fcvt.s.w fa1,x0\n"
> >         "fmax.s fa1,fa1,fa0\n"
> >         "fmv.x.d %1,fa1\n" : "=r" (a), "=r" (b));
> >     printf("box(nan) = %lx\nmax(0,nan) = %lx\n", a, b);
> >     return 0;
> > }

As an aside, if you are building software for a k210, you probably know
pretty damn well what your target system is, given the constraints of
the platform!

> > > +        - const: h
> > > +          description:
> > > +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in
> > > the 20191213
> > > +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> > > +
> > > +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
> 
> The multi-letter extensions name should match(ignoring case) the name
> of the frozen/ratified or
> vendor specific extension name. Correct ?

Iff it is the first time of appearance, yes.

> > There are quite a few extension names defined in ratified specifications
> > that aren't in that list yet.  Would there be interest in adding them or
> > are we waiting for specific conditions to be met?

I only added what was already in use, adding new stuff can be done
subsequently.

> > In particular several subsystems depend on "ziccif" from the profiles
> > spec but we haven't previously had a way to check or document that
> > dependency.

Cheers,
Conor.
  

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:52:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:23 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:43 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> intro
>> >> =====
>> >>
>> >> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
>> >> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
>> >> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
>> >> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
>> >>
>> >> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
>> >> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
>> >> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
>> >> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
>> >> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
>> >> example.
>> >> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
>> >> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
>> >> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
>> >>
>> >> versioning schemes
>> >> ==================
>> >>
>> >> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
>> >> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
>> >> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
>> >> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
>> >> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
>> >> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
>> >> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
>> >> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
>> >> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
>> >>
>> >>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
>> >>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
>> >>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
>> >>         repositories.
>> >>
>> >> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
>> >> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
>> >> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
>> >> this manner.
>> >>
>> >> ~boolean properties~ string array property
>> >> ==========================================
>> >>
>> >> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
>> >> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
>> >> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
>> >> software.
>> >>
>> >> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
>> >> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
>> >> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
>> >> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
>> >> characters in the string.
>> >> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
>> >> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
>> >> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
>> >> a new property will be required.
>> >>
>> >> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
>> >> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
>> >> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
>> >> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
>> >> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
>> >> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
>> >> crops up.
>> >> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
>> >> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
>> >>
>> >> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
>> >> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
>> >> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
>> >> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
>> >> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
>> >> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
>> >> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
>> >> the brave, or the foolish).
>> >>
>> >> acpi
>> >> ====
>> >>
>> >> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
>> >> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
>> >> explicit meaning to extensions.
>> >
>> > Drop this paragraph on ACPI.
>> >
>> > We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
>> > There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.
>>
>> Which spec are we following for the ACPI ISA string?
>
> ACPI RHCT follows the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
> defined by the RISC-V unpriv spec. I understand that there are
> unresolved issues in the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
> which should be addressed by RVI and we should also try our
> best to have this fixed in the spec.

Which version of the spec?  We've had a ton of issues related to 
versioning everywhere else the ISA string has been used, we need to know 
specifically which version we're parsing in order to do anything 
meaningful with it.

> In any case, ACPI spec is owned by UEFI forum so it does
> not make sense to define/recommend anything for ACPI in
> DT bindings.

Unless I missed something this is just a long commit message, it's not 
even in the docs.  If you don't want the DT side to even mention ACPI 
that's fine with me, though, I don't really care.

>
> Regards,
> Anup
>
>
>
>>
>> > Regards,
>> > Anup
>> >
>> >>
>> >> parser simplicity
>> >> =================
>> >>
>> >> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
>> >> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
>> >> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
>> >> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
>> >> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
>> >> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
>> >> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
>> >> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
>> >> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
>> >>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
>> >>
>> >> vendor extensions
>> >> =================
>> >>
>> >> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
>> >> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
>> >> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
>> >> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
>> >> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
>> >> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
>> >> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
>> >> compatibility.
>> >> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
>> >> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
>> >>
>> >> fin
>> >> ===
>> >>
>> >> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
>> >> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
>> >> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
>> >>
>> >> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
>> >> Linux.
>> >>
>> >> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
>> >> existing programs would be an ABI break.
>> >>
>> >> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
>> >> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>> >> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>> >> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>> >> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
>> >> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
>> >> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
>> >> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
>> >> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
>> >> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
>> >> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
>> >> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
>> >> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
>> >> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
>> >> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
>> >> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>> >> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> >> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> >> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
>> >> ---
>> >> Changes in v3:
>> >> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>> >>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>> >>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>> >>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>> >>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
>> >> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>> >>   one to apply this).
>> >> ---
>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
>> >>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> >>
>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> >> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
>> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> >> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
>> >>
>> >>  allOf:
>> >>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
>> >> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
>> >>
>> >>  properties:
>> >>    compatible:
>> >> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
>> >>      description:
>> >>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
>> >>
>> >> -  riscv,isa:
>> >> -    description:
>> >> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>> >> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>> >> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
>> >> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>> >> -
>> >> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>> >> -      have arisen over time.
>> >> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>> >> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>> >> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>> >> -
>> >> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>> >> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>> >> -      lowercase.
>> >> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>> >> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>> >> -
>> >>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
>> >>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
>> >>    cache-op-block-size: false
>> >> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
>> >>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
>> >>        in the system.
>> >>
>> >> +oneOf:
>> >> +  - required:
>> >> +      - riscv,isa
>> >> +  - required:
>> >> +      - riscv,isa-base
>> >> +
>> >> +dependencies:
>> >> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
>> >> +
>> >>  required:
>> >> -  - riscv,isa
>> >>    - interrupt-controller
>> >>
>> >>  unevaluatedProperties: false
>> >> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
>> >>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
>> >>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
>> >>                  reg = <0>;
>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
>> >> +
>> >>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>> >> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
>> >>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
>> >>                  reg = <1>;
>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>> >>                  tlb-split;
>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> >> +
>> >>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>> >> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
>> >>                  device_type = "cpu";
>> >>                  reg = <0>;
>> >>                  compatible = "riscv";
>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> >> +
>> >>                  interrupt-controller {
>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> >>                          interrupt-controller;
>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> >> new file mode 100644
>> >> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
>> >> --- /dev/null
>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> >> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
>> >> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
>> >> +%YAML 1.2
>> >> +---
>> >> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
>> >> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>> >> +
>> >> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
>> >> +
>> >> +maintainers:
>> >> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>> >> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
>> >> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
>> >> +
>> >> +description: |
>> >> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
>> >> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
>> >> +  are "vendor" extensions.
>> >> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
>> >> +  given extension.
>> >> +
>> >> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
>> >> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
>> >> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
>> >> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
>> >> +  See the "i" property for more information.
>> >> +
>> >> +select:
>> >> +  properties:
>> >> +    compatible:
>> >> +      contains:
>> >> +        const: riscv
>> >> +
>> >> +properties:
>> >> +  riscv,isa:
>> >> +    description:
>> >> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>> >> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>> >> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
>> >> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>> >> +
>> >> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>> >> +      have arisen over time.
>> >> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>> >> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>> >> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>> >> +
>> >> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>> >> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>> >> +      lowercase.
>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>> >> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>> >> +    deprecated: true
>> >> +
>> >> +  riscv,isa-base:
>> >> +    description:
>> >> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
>> >> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >> +    enum:
>> >> +      - rv32i
>> >> +      - rv64i
>> >> +
>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
>> >> +    minItems: 1
>> >> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
>> >> +    items:
>> >> +      anyOf:
>> >> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
>> >> +        - const: i
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
>> >> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
>> >> +            counter access.
>> >> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
>> >> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
>> >> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: m
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >> +            specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: a
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
>> >> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: f
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >> +            specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: d
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >> +            specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: q
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >> +            specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: c
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
>> >> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: v
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
>> >> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
>> >> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: h
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
>> >> +        - const: smaia
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>> >> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
>> >> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
>> >> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: ssaia
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>> >> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
>> >> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
>> >> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: sscofpmf
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
>> >> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
>> >> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: sstc
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
>> >> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
>> >> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: svinval
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
>> >> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: svnapot
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
>> >> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>> >> +            privileged ISA specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: svpbmt
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
>> >> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
>> >> +            ISA specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zba
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
>> >> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
>> >> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
>> >> +            riscv-bitmanip.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zbb
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
>> >> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
>> >> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zbc
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
>> >> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
>> >> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zbs
>> >> +          description: |
>> >> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
>> >> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
>> >> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zicbom
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
>> >> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zicbop
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
>> >> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
>> >> +            riscv-CMOs.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zicboz
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
>> >> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zicntr
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >> +            specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zicsr
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
>> >> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>> >> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zifencei
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >> +            specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zihintpause
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
>> >> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: zihpm
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >> +            specification.
>> >> +
>> >> +        - const: ztso
>> >> +          description:
>> >> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
>> >> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
>> >> +            riscv-isa-manual.
>> >> +
>> >> +additionalProperties: true
>> >> +...
>> >> --
>> >> 2.40.1
>> >>
  

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:49:06 PDT (-0700), Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:52:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:23 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:43 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
>>> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> intro
>>> >> =====
>>> >>
>>> >> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
>>> >> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
>>> >> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
>>> >> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
>>> >>
>>> >> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
>>> >> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
>>> >> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
>>> >> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
>>> >> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
>>> >> example.
>>> >> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
>>> >> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
>>> >> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
>>> >>
>>> >> versioning schemes
>>> >> ==================
>>> >>
>>> >> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
>>> >> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
>>> >> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
>>> >> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
>>> >> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
>>> >> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
>>> >> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
>>> >> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
>>> >> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
>>> >>
>>> >>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
>>> >>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
>>> >>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
>>> >>         repositories.
>>> >>
>>> >> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
>>> >> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
>>> >> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
>>> >> this manner.
>>> >>
>>> >> ~boolean properties~ string array property
>>> >> ==========================================
>>> >>
>>> >> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
>>> >> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
>>> >> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
>>> >> software.
>>> >>
>>> >> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
>>> >> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
>>> >> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
>>> >> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
>>> >> characters in the string.
>>> >> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
>>> >> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
>>> >> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
>>> >> a new property will be required.
>>> >>
>>> >> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
>>> >> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
>>> >> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
>>> >> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
>>> >> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
>>> >> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
>>> >> crops up.
>>> >> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
>>> >> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
>>> >>
>>> >> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
>>> >> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
>>> >> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
>>> >> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
>>> >> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
>>> >> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
>>> >> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
>>> >> the brave, or the foolish).
>>> >>
>>> >> acpi
>>> >> ====
>>> >>
>>> >> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
>>> >> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
>>> >> explicit meaning to extensions.
>>> >
>>> > Drop this paragraph on ACPI.
>>> >
>>> > We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
>>> > There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.
>>>
>>> Which spec are we following for the ACPI ISA string?
>>
>> ACPI RHCT follows the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
>> defined by the RISC-V unpriv spec. I understand that there are
>> unresolved issues in the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
>> which should be addressed by RVI and we should also try our
>> best to have this fixed in the spec.
>
> Which version of the spec?  We've had a ton of issues related to
> versioning everywhere else the ISA string has been used, we need to know
> specifically which version we're parsing in order to do anything
> meaningful with it.

Anup: Can you please provide a pointer to the spec this is supposed to 
implement?  I don't want to end up in the same spot again where we're 
presuming some spec changes, we've got to support whatever we merge no 
matter what happens on the spec side.

In theory I'm on vacation today, but I'll try and look at the thread 
again tonight when I get back.

>> In any case, ACPI spec is owned by UEFI forum so it does
>> not make sense to define/recommend anything for ACPI in
>> DT bindings.
>
> Unless I missed something this is just a long commit message, it's not
> even in the docs.  If you don't want the DT side to even mention ACPI
> that's fine with me, though, I don't really care.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anup
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Anup
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> parser simplicity
>>> >> =================
>>> >>
>>> >> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
>>> >> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
>>> >> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
>>> >> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
>>> >> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
>>> >> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
>>> >> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
>>> >> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
>>> >> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
>>> >>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
>>> >>
>>> >> vendor extensions
>>> >> =================
>>> >>
>>> >> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
>>> >> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
>>> >> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
>>> >> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
>>> >> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
>>> >> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
>>> >> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
>>> >> compatibility.
>>> >> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
>>> >> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
>>> >>
>>> >> fin
>>> >> ===
>>> >>
>>> >> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
>>> >> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
>>> >> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
>>> >>
>>> >> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
>>> >> Linux.
>>> >>
>>> >> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
>>> >> existing programs would be an ABI break.
>>> >>
>>> >> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
>>> >> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>>> >> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>>> >> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>>> >> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
>>> >> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
>>> >> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
>>> >> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
>>> >> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
>>> >> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
>>> >> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
>>> >> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
>>> >> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
>>> >> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
>>> >> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
>>> >> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>>> >> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>> >> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>>> >> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>>> >> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
>>> >> ---
>>> >> Changes in v3:
>>> >> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>>> >>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>>> >>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>>> >>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>>> >>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
>>> >> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>>> >>   one to apply this).
>>> >> ---
>>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
>>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
>>> >>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>>> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>>> >>
>>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>>> >> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
>>> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>>> >> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
>>> >>
>>> >>  allOf:
>>> >>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
>>> >> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
>>> >>
>>> >>  properties:
>>> >>    compatible:
>>> >> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
>>> >>      description:
>>> >>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
>>> >>
>>> >> -  riscv,isa:
>>> >> -    description:
>>> >> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>>> >> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>>> >> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
>>> >> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>>> >> -
>>> >> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>>> >> -      have arisen over time.
>>> >> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>>> >> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>>> >> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>>> >> -
>>> >> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>>> >> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>>> >> -      lowercase.
>>> >> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>>> >> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>>> >> -
>>> >>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
>>> >>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
>>> >>    cache-op-block-size: false
>>> >> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
>>> >>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
>>> >>        in the system.
>>> >>
>>> >> +oneOf:
>>> >> +  - required:
>>> >> +      - riscv,isa
>>> >> +  - required:
>>> >> +      - riscv,isa-base
>>> >> +
>>> >> +dependencies:
>>> >> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
>>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
>>> >> +
>>> >>  required:
>>> >> -  - riscv,isa
>>> >>    - interrupt-controller
>>> >>
>>> >>  unevaluatedProperties: false
>>> >> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
>>> >>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
>>> >>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
>>> >>                  reg = <0>;
>>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
>>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
>>> >> +
>>> >>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>>> >> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
>>> >>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
>>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
>>> >>                  reg = <1>;
>>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>>> >>                  tlb-split;
>>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>>> >> +
>>> >>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>>> >> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
>>> >>                  device_type = "cpu";
>>> >>                  reg = <0>;
>>> >>                  compatible = "riscv";
>>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
>>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>>> >> +
>>> >>                  interrupt-controller {
>>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>>> >>                          interrupt-controller;
>>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>>> >> new file mode 100644
>>> >> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
>>> >> --- /dev/null
>>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>>> >> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
>>> >> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
>>> >> +%YAML 1.2
>>> >> +---
>>> >> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
>>> >> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>>> >> +
>>> >> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
>>> >> +
>>> >> +maintainers:
>>> >> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>>> >> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
>>> >> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
>>> >> +
>>> >> +description: |
>>> >> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
>>> >> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
>>> >> +  are "vendor" extensions.
>>> >> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
>>> >> +  given extension.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
>>> >> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
>>> >> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
>>> >> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
>>> >> +  See the "i" property for more information.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +select:
>>> >> +  properties:
>>> >> +    compatible:
>>> >> +      contains:
>>> >> +        const: riscv
>>> >> +
>>> >> +properties:
>>> >> +  riscv,isa:
>>> >> +    description:
>>> >> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>>> >> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>>> >> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
>>> >> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>>> >> +
>>> >> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>>> >> +      have arisen over time.
>>> >> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>>> >> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>>> >> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>>> >> +
>>> >> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>>> >> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>>> >> +      lowercase.
>>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>>> >> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>>> >> +    deprecated: true
>>> >> +
>>> >> +  riscv,isa-base:
>>> >> +    description:
>>> >> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
>>> >> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>>> >> +    enum:
>>> >> +      - rv32i
>>> >> +      - rv64i
>>> >> +
>>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
>>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
>>> >> +    minItems: 1
>>> >> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
>>> >> +    items:
>>> >> +      anyOf:
>>> >> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
>>> >> +        - const: i
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
>>> >> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
>>> >> +            counter access.
>>> >> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
>>> >> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
>>> >> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: m
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
>>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>>> >> +            specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: a
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
>>> >> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: f
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
>>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>>> >> +            specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: d
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
>>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>>> >> +            specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: q
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
>>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>>> >> +            specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: c
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
>>> >> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: v
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
>>> >> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
>>> >> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: h
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
>>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
>>> >> +        - const: smaia
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>>> >> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
>>> >> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
>>> >> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: ssaia
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>>> >> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
>>> >> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
>>> >> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: sscofpmf
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
>>> >> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
>>> >> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: sstc
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
>>> >> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
>>> >> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: svinval
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
>>> >> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
>>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: svnapot
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
>>> >> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>>> >> +            privileged ISA specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: svpbmt
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
>>> >> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
>>> >> +            ISA specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zba
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
>>> >> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
>>> >> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
>>> >> +            riscv-bitmanip.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zbb
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
>>> >> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
>>> >> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zbc
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
>>> >> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
>>> >> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zbs
>>> >> +          description: |
>>> >> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
>>> >> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
>>> >> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zicbom
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
>>> >> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zicbop
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
>>> >> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
>>> >> +            riscv-CMOs.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zicboz
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
>>> >> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zicntr
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
>>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>>> >> +            specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zicsr
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
>>> >> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>>> >> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zifencei
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
>>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>>> >> +            specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zihintpause
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
>>> >> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: zihpm
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
>>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>>> >> +            specification.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +        - const: ztso
>>> >> +          description:
>>> >> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
>>> >> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
>>> >> +            riscv-isa-manual.
>>> >> +
>>> >> +additionalProperties: true
>>> >> +...
>>> >> --
>>> >> 2.40.1
>>> >>
  

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 7:46 PM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:49:06 PDT (-0700), Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:52:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:23 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:43 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> >>> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> intro
> >>> >> =====
> >>> >>
> >>> >> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> >>> >> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> >>> >> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> >>> >> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> >>> >> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> >>> >> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> >>> >> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> >>> >> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> >>> >> example.
> >>> >> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> >>> >> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> >>> >> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> versioning schemes
> >>> >> ==================
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> >>> >> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> >>> >> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> >>> >> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> >>> >> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> >>> >> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> >>> >> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> >>> >> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> >>> >> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
> >>> >>
> >>> >>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
> >>> >>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
> >>> >>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
> >>> >>         repositories.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> >>> >> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> >>> >> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> >>> >> this manner.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ~boolean properties~ string array property
> >>> >> ==========================================
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> >>> >> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> >>> >> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> >>> >> software.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> >>> >> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> >>> >> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> >>> >> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> >>> >> characters in the string.
> >>> >> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> >>> >> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> >>> >> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> >>> >> a new property will be required.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> >>> >> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> >>> >> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> >>> >> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> >>> >> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> >>> >> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> >>> >> crops up.
> >>> >> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> >>> >> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> >>> >> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> >>> >> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> >>> >> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> >>> >> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> >>> >> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> >>> >> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> >>> >> the brave, or the foolish).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> acpi
> >>> >> ====
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> >>> >> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> >>> >> explicit meaning to extensions.
> >>> >
> >>> > Drop this paragraph on ACPI.
> >>> >
> >>> > We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
> >>> > There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.
> >>>
> >>> Which spec are we following for the ACPI ISA string?
> >>
> >> ACPI RHCT follows the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
> >> defined by the RISC-V unpriv spec. I understand that there are
> >> unresolved issues in the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
> >> which should be addressed by RVI and we should also try our
> >> best to have this fixed in the spec.
> >
> > Which version of the spec?  We've had a ton of issues related to
> > versioning everywhere else the ISA string has been used, we need to know
> > specifically which version we're parsing in order to do anything
> > meaningful with it.
>
> Anup: Can you please provide a pointer to the spec this is supposed to
> implement?  I don't want to end up in the same spot again where we're
> presuming some spec changes, we've got to support whatever we merge no
> matter what happens on the spec side.
>
> In theory I'm on vacation today, but I'll try and look at the thread
> again tonight when I get back.

It is the "Chapter 29. ISA Extension Naming Conventions" of the
RISC-V unpriv specification.
(https://github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-manual/releases/download/riscv-isa-release-1239329-2023-05-23/unpriv-isa-asciidoc.pdf)

The RISC-V unpriv specification is only a collection of extensions
hence it does not have its own version.

We should work with RVI to address the concerns/clarifications
that we need in "Chapter 29. ISA Extension Naming Conventions".

We can also create GitHub issues for unpriv spec if that helps.

Regards,
Anup

>
> >> In any case, ACPI spec is owned by UEFI forum so it does
> >> not make sense to define/recommend anything for ACPI in
> >> DT bindings.
> >
> > Unless I missed something this is just a long commit message, it's not
> > even in the docs.  If you don't want the DT side to even mention ACPI
> > that's fine with me, though, I don't really care.
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Anup
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Anup
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> parser simplicity
> >>> >> =================
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> >>> >> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> >>> >> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> >>> >> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> >>> >> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> >>> >> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> >>> >> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> >>> >> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> >>> >> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
> >>> >>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
> >>> >>
> >>> >> vendor extensions
> >>> >> =================
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> >>> >> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> >>> >> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> >>> >> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> >>> >> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> >>> >> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> >>> >> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> >>> >> compatibility.
> >>> >> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> >>> >> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> fin
> >>> >> ===
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> >>> >> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> >>> >> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> >>> >> Linux.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> >>> >> existing programs would be an ABI break.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> >>> >> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> >>> >> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> >>> >> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> >>> >> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> >>> >> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> >>> >> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> >>> >> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> >>> >> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> >>> >> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> >>> >> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> >>> >> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> >>> >> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> >>> >> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> >>> >> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> >>> >> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >>> >> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >>> >> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> >>> >> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> >>> >> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >> Changes in v3:
> >>> >> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
> >>> >>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
> >>> >>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
> >>> >>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
> >>> >>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> >>> >> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
> >>> >>   one to apply this).
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
> >>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
> >>> >>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> >>> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >>> >>
> >>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >>> >> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
> >>> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >>> >> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
> >>> >>
> >>> >>  allOf:
> >>> >>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
> >>> >> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
> >>> >>
> >>> >>  properties:
> >>> >>    compatible:
> >>> >> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
> >>> >>      description:
> >>> >>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -  riscv,isa:
> >>> >> -    description:
> >>> >> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> >>> >> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> >>> >> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
> >>> >> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> >>> >> -
> >>> >> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> >>> >> -      have arisen over time.
> >>> >> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> >>> >> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> >>> >> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> >>> >> -
> >>> >> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> >>> >> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> >>> >> -      lowercase.
> >>> >> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >>> >> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> >>> >> -
> >>> >>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
> >>> >>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
> >>> >>    cache-op-block-size: false
> >>> >> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
> >>> >>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
> >>> >>        in the system.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> +oneOf:
> >>> >> +  - required:
> >>> >> +      - riscv,isa
> >>> >> +  - required:
> >>> >> +      - riscv,isa-base
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +dependencies:
> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
> >>> >> +
> >>> >>  required:
> >>> >> -  - riscv,isa
> >>> >>    - interrupt-controller
> >>> >>
> >>> >>  unevaluatedProperties: false
> >>> >> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
> >>> >>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
> >>> >>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
> >>> >>                  reg = <0>;
> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
> >>> >> +
> >>> >>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> >>> >> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
> >>> >>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
> >>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
> >>> >>                  reg = <1>;
> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >>> >>                  tlb-split;
> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> >>> >> +
> >>> >>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> >>> >> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
> >>> >>                  device_type = "cpu";
> >>> >>                  reg = <0>;
> >>> >>                  compatible = "riscv";
> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> >>> >> +
> >>> >>                  interrupt-controller {
> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >>> >>                          interrupt-controller;
> >>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >>> >> new file mode 100644
> >>> >> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
> >>> >> --- /dev/null
> >>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >>> >> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
> >>> >> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
> >>> >> +%YAML 1.2
> >>> >> +---
> >>> >> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
> >>> >> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +maintainers:
> >>> >> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> >>> >> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
> >>> >> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +description: |
> >>> >> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
> >>> >> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
> >>> >> +  are "vendor" extensions.
> >>> >> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
> >>> >> +  given extension.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
> >>> >> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
> >>> >> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
> >>> >> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
> >>> >> +  See the "i" property for more information.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +select:
> >>> >> +  properties:
> >>> >> +    compatible:
> >>> >> +      contains:
> >>> >> +        const: riscv
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +properties:
> >>> >> +  riscv,isa:
> >>> >> +    description:
> >>> >> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> >>> >> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> >>> >> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
> >>> >> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> >>> >> +      have arisen over time.
> >>> >> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> >>> >> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> >>> >> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> >>> >> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> >>> >> +      lowercase.
> >>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >>> >> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> >>> >> +    deprecated: true
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-base:
> >>> >> +    description:
> >>> >> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
> >>> >> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >>> >> +    enum:
> >>> >> +      - rv32i
> >>> >> +      - rv64i
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> >>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> >>> >> +    minItems: 1
> >>> >> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> >>> >> +    items:
> >>> >> +      anyOf:
> >>> >> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> >>> >> +        - const: i
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
> >>> >> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
> >>> >> +            counter access.
> >>> >> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
> >>> >> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
> >>> >> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: m
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >>> >> +            specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: a
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
> >>> >> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: f
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >>> >> +            specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: d
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >>> >> +            specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: q
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >>> >> +            specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: c
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
> >>> >> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: v
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
> >>> >> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
> >>> >> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: h
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
> >>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
> >>> >> +        - const: smaia
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> >>> >> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
> >>> >> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
> >>> >> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: ssaia
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> >>> >> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
> >>> >> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
> >>> >> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: sscofpmf
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
> >>> >> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
> >>> >> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: sstc
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
> >>> >> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
> >>> >> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: svinval
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
> >>> >> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
> >>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: svnapot
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
> >>> >> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> >>> >> +            privileged ISA specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: svpbmt
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
> >>> >> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
> >>> >> +            ISA specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zba
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
> >>> >> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
> >>> >> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> >>> >> +            riscv-bitmanip.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zbb
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
> >>> >> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
> >>> >> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zbc
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
> >>> >> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
> >>> >> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zbs
> >>> >> +          description: |
> >>> >> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
> >>> >> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
> >>> >> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zicbom
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
> >>> >> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zicbop
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
> >>> >> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
> >>> >> +            riscv-CMOs.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zicboz
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
> >>> >> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zicntr
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >>> >> +            specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zicsr
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
> >>> >> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> >>> >> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zifencei
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >>> >> +            specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zihintpause
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
> >>> >> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: zihpm
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >>> >> +            specification.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +        - const: ztso
> >>> >> +          description:
> >>> >> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
> >>> >> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
> >>> >> +            riscv-isa-manual.
> >>> >> +
> >>> >> +additionalProperties: true
> >>> >> +...
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> 2.40.1
> >>> >>
  

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:31:32 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 7:46 PM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:49:06 PDT (-0700), Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
>> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:52:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:23 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:43 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
>> >>> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> intro
>> >>> >> =====
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
>> >>> >> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
>> >>> >> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
>> >>> >> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
>> >>> >> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
>> >>> >> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
>> >>> >> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
>> >>> >> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
>> >>> >> example.
>> >>> >> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
>> >>> >> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
>> >>> >> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> versioning schemes
>> >>> >> ==================
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
>> >>> >> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
>> >>> >> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
>> >>> >> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
>> >>> >> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
>> >>> >> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
>> >>> >> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
>> >>> >> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
>> >>> >> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
>> >>> >>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
>> >>> >>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
>> >>> >>         repositories.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
>> >>> >> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
>> >>> >> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
>> >>> >> this manner.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ~boolean properties~ string array property
>> >>> >> ==========================================
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
>> >>> >> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
>> >>> >> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
>> >>> >> software.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
>> >>> >> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
>> >>> >> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
>> >>> >> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
>> >>> >> characters in the string.
>> >>> >> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
>> >>> >> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
>> >>> >> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
>> >>> >> a new property will be required.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
>> >>> >> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
>> >>> >> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
>> >>> >> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
>> >>> >> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
>> >>> >> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
>> >>> >> crops up.
>> >>> >> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
>> >>> >> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
>> >>> >> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
>> >>> >> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
>> >>> >> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
>> >>> >> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
>> >>> >> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
>> >>> >> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
>> >>> >> the brave, or the foolish).
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> acpi
>> >>> >> ====
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
>> >>> >> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
>> >>> >> explicit meaning to extensions.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Drop this paragraph on ACPI.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
>> >>> > There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.
>> >>>
>> >>> Which spec are we following for the ACPI ISA string?
>> >>
>> >> ACPI RHCT follows the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
>> >> defined by the RISC-V unpriv spec. I understand that there are
>> >> unresolved issues in the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
>> >> which should be addressed by RVI and we should also try our
>> >> best to have this fixed in the spec.
>> >
>> > Which version of the spec?  We've had a ton of issues related to
>> > versioning everywhere else the ISA string has been used, we need to know
>> > specifically which version we're parsing in order to do anything
>> > meaningful with it.
>>
>> Anup: Can you please provide a pointer to the spec this is supposed to
>> implement?  I don't want to end up in the same spot again where we're
>> presuming some spec changes, we've got to support whatever we merge no
>> matter what happens on the spec side.
>>
>> In theory I'm on vacation today, but I'll try and look at the thread
>> again tonight when I get back.
>
> It is the "Chapter 29. ISA Extension Naming Conventions" of the
> RISC-V unpriv specification.
> (https://github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-manual/releases/download/riscv-isa-release-1239329-2023-05-23/unpriv-isa-asciidoc.pdf)
>
> The RISC-V unpriv specification is only a collection of extensions
> hence it does not have its own version.

There's a version right on the front page, it says "Version ASCIIDOC 
Conversion, 12/2022".  There's a few with that version, but versioning 
is pretty broken in RISC-V land so we've mostly just started running 
with the commits/tags.

It also says it's a pre release version, but if that's what ACPI is 
using then I'm fine with it -- the key is that whatever we're supporting 
we're stuck with, as we have to maintain compatibility here.

> We should work with RVI to address the concerns/clarifications
> that we need in "Chapter 29. ISA Extension Naming Conventions".
>
> We can also create GitHub issues for unpriv spec if that helps.

The nice thing about starting with a new interface is that there's 
nothing to be compatible with, so there's no issues.  Given what a mess 
ISA strings have been everywhere else I'm sure we'll have some, but 
that's problem for later.

I couldn't find anywhere else this was written down, so I started an 
ACPI doc -- as usual maybe a bit odd for just the one thing, but we 
usually end up with more.

https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230629031705.15575-1-palmer@rivosinc.com/


> Regards,
> Anup
>
>>
>> >> In any case, ACPI spec is owned by UEFI forum so it does
>> >> not make sense to define/recommend anything for ACPI in
>> >> DT bindings.
>> >
>> > Unless I missed something this is just a long commit message, it's not
>> > even in the docs.  If you don't want the DT side to even mention ACPI
>> > that's fine with me, though, I don't really care.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Anup
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> > Regards,
>> >>> > Anup
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> parser simplicity
>> >>> >> =================
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
>> >>> >> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
>> >>> >> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
>> >>> >> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
>> >>> >> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
>> >>> >> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
>> >>> >> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
>> >>> >> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
>> >>> >> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
>> >>> >>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> vendor extensions
>> >>> >> =================
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
>> >>> >> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
>> >>> >> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
>> >>> >> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
>> >>> >> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
>> >>> >> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
>> >>> >> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
>> >>> >> compatibility.
>> >>> >> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
>> >>> >> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> fin
>> >>> >> ===
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
>> >>> >> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
>> >>> >> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
>> >>> >> Linux.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
>> >>> >> existing programs would be an ABI break.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
>> >>> >> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
>> >>> >> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
>> >>> >> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
>> >>> >> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
>> >>> >> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
>> >>> >> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
>> >>> >> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
>> >>> >> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
>> >>> >> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>> >>> >> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> >>> >> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
>> >>> >> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
>> >>> >> ---
>> >>> >> Changes in v3:
>> >>> >> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
>> >>> >>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
>> >>> >>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
>> >>> >>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
>> >>> >>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
>> >>> >> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
>> >>> >>   one to apply this).
>> >>> >> ---
>> >>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
>> >>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
>> >>> >>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
>> >>> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> >>> >> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
>> >>> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> >>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
>> >>> >> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>  allOf:
>> >>> >>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
>> >>> >> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>  properties:
>> >>> >>    compatible:
>> >>> >> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
>> >>> >>      description:
>> >>> >>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> -  riscv,isa:
>> >>> >> -    description:
>> >>> >> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>> >>> >> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>> >>> >> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
>> >>> >> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>> >>> >> -
>> >>> >> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>> >>> >> -      have arisen over time.
>> >>> >> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>> >>> >> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>> >>> >> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>> >>> >> -
>> >>> >> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>> >>> >> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>> >>> >> -      lowercase.
>> >>> >> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>> >>> >> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>> >>> >> -
>> >>> >>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
>> >>> >>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
>> >>> >>    cache-op-block-size: false
>> >>> >> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
>> >>> >>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
>> >>> >>        in the system.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> +oneOf:
>> >>> >> +  - required:
>> >>> >> +      - riscv,isa
>> >>> >> +  - required:
>> >>> >> +      - riscv,isa-base
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +dependencies:
>> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
>> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >>  required:
>> >>> >> -  - riscv,isa
>> >>> >>    - interrupt-controller
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>  unevaluatedProperties: false
>> >>> >> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
>> >>> >>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
>> >>> >>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
>> >>> >>                  reg = <0>;
>> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
>> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
>> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> >>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>> >>> >> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
>> >>> >>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
>> >>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
>> >>> >>                  reg = <1>;
>> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>> >>> >>                  tlb-split;
>> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
>> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> >>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
>> >>> >> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
>> >>> >>                  device_type = "cpu";
>> >>> >>                  reg = <0>;
>> >>> >>                  compatible = "riscv";
>> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
>> >>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
>> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
>> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >>                  interrupt-controller {
>> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
>> >>> >>                          interrupt-controller;
>> >>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> >>> >> new file mode 100644
>> >>> >> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
>> >>> >> --- /dev/null
>> >>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
>> >>> >> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
>> >>> >> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
>> >>> >> +%YAML 1.2
>> >>> >> +---
>> >>> >> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
>> >>> >> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +maintainers:
>> >>> >> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
>> >>> >> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
>> >>> >> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +description: |
>> >>> >> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
>> >>> >> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
>> >>> >> +  are "vendor" extensions.
>> >>> >> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
>> >>> >> +  given extension.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
>> >>> >> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
>> >>> >> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
>> >>> >> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
>> >>> >> +  See the "i" property for more information.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +select:
>> >>> >> +  properties:
>> >>> >> +    compatible:
>> >>> >> +      contains:
>> >>> >> +        const: riscv
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +properties:
>> >>> >> +  riscv,isa:
>> >>> >> +    description:
>> >>> >> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
>> >>> >> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
>> >>> >> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
>> >>> >> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
>> >>> >> +      have arisen over time.
>> >>> >> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
>> >>> >> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
>> >>> >> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
>> >>> >> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
>> >>> >> +      lowercase.
>> >>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
>> >>> >> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
>> >>> >> +    deprecated: true
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-base:
>> >>> >> +    description:
>> >>> >> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
>> >>> >> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +    enum:
>> >>> >> +      - rv32i
>> >>> >> +      - rv64i
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
>> >>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
>> >>> >> +    minItems: 1
>> >>> >> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
>> >>> >> +    items:
>> >>> >> +      anyOf:
>> >>> >> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
>> >>> >> +        - const: i
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
>> >>> >> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
>> >>> >> +            counter access.
>> >>> >> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
>> >>> >> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
>> >>> >> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: m
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >>> >> +            specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: a
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
>> >>> >> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: f
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >>> >> +            specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: d
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >>> >> +            specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: q
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >>> >> +            specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: c
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
>> >>> >> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: v
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
>> >>> >> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
>> >>> >> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: h
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
>> >>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
>> >>> >> +        - const: smaia
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>> >>> >> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
>> >>> >> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
>> >>> >> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: ssaia
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
>> >>> >> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
>> >>> >> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
>> >>> >> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: sscofpmf
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
>> >>> >> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
>> >>> >> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: sstc
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
>> >>> >> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
>> >>> >> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: svinval
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
>> >>> >> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
>> >>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: svnapot
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
>> >>> >> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>> >>> >> +            privileged ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: svpbmt
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
>> >>> >> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
>> >>> >> +            ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zba
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
>> >>> >> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
>> >>> >> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
>> >>> >> +            riscv-bitmanip.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zbb
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
>> >>> >> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
>> >>> >> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zbc
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
>> >>> >> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
>> >>> >> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zbs
>> >>> >> +          description: |
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
>> >>> >> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
>> >>> >> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zicbom
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zicbop
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
>> >>> >> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
>> >>> >> +            riscv-CMOs.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zicboz
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
>> >>> >> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zicntr
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >>> >> +            specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zicsr
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
>> >>> >> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
>> >>> >> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zifencei
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >>> >> +            specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zihintpause
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
>> >>> >> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: zihpm
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
>> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
>> >>> >> +            specification.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +        - const: ztso
>> >>> >> +          description:
>> >>> >> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
>> >>> >> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
>> >>> >> +            riscv-isa-manual.
>> >>> >> +
>> >>> >> +additionalProperties: true
>> >>> >> +...
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> 2.40.1
>> >>> >>
  

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 8:49 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:31:32 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 7:46 PM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:49:06 PDT (-0700), Palmer Dabbelt wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:52:06 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:23 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:38:43 PDT (-0700), apatel@ventanamicro.com wrote:
> >> >>> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 3:42 PM Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> intro
> >> >>> >> =====
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> When the RISC-V dt-bindings were accepted upstream in Linux, the base
> >> >>> >> ISA etc had yet to be ratified. By the ratification of the base ISA,
> >> >>> >> incompatible changes had snuck into the specifications - for example the
> >> >>> >> Zicsr and Zifencei extensions were spun out of the base ISA.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Fast forward to today, and the reason for this patch.
> >> >>> >> Currently the riscv,isa dt property permits only a specific subset of
> >> >>> >> the ISA string - in particular it excludes version numbering.
> >> >>> >> With the current constraints, it is not possible to discern whether
> >> >>> >> "rv64i" means that the hart supports the fence.i instruction, for
> >> >>> >> example.
> >> >>> >> Future systems may choose to implement their own instruction fencing,
> >> >>> >> perhaps using a vendor extension, or they may not implement the optional
> >> >>> >> counter extensions. Software needs a way to determine this.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> versioning schemes
> >> >>> >> ==================
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Use the extension versions that are described in the ISA manual" you
> >> >>> >> may say, and it's not like this has not been considered.
> >> >>> >> Firstly, software that parses the riscv,isa property at runtime will
> >> >>> >> need to contain a lookup table of some sort that maps arbitrary versions
> >> >>> >> to versions it understands. There is not a consistent application of
> >> >>> >> version number applied to extensions, with a higgledy-piggledy
> >> >>> >> collection of tags, "bare" and versioned documents awaiting the reader
> >> >>> >> on the "recently ratified extensions" page:
> >> >>> >> https://wiki.riscv.org/display/HOME/Recently+Ratified+Extensions
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>         As an aside, and this is reflected in the patch too, since many
> >> >>> >>         extensions have yet to appear in a release of the ISA specs,
> >> >>> >>         they are defined by commits in their respective "working draft"
> >> >>> >>         repositories.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Secondly, there is an issue of backwards compatibility, whereby allowing
> >> >>> >> numbers in the ISA string, some parsers may be broken. This would
> >> >>> >> require an additional property to be created to even use the versions in
> >> >>> >> this manner.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> ~boolean properties~ string array property
> >> >>> >> ==========================================
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> If a new property is needed, the whole approach may as well be looked at
> >> >>> >> from the bottom up. A string with limited character choices etc is
> >> >>> >> hardly the best approach for communicating extension information to
> >> >>> >> software.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Switching to using properties that are defined on a per extension basis,
> >> >>> >> allows us to define explicit meanings for the DT representation of each
> >> >>> >> extension - rather than the current situation where different operating
> >> >>> >> systems or other bits of software may impart different meanings to
> >> >>> >> characters in the string.
> >> >>> >> Clearly the best source of meanings is the specifications themselves,
> >> >>> >> this just provides us the ability to choose at what point in time the
> >> >>> >> meaning is set. If an extension changes incompatibility in the future,
> >> >>> >> a new property will be required.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> >> >>> >> in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> >> >>> >> so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> >> >>> >> features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> >> >>> >> somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> >> >>> >> broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> >> >>> >> crops up.
> >> >>> >> It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> >> >>> >> define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> >> >>> >> string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> >> >>> >> as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> >> >>> >> enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> >> >>> >> with the current dt-schema infrastructure for arbitrary strings, as we
> >> >>> >> would need to add a riscv,isa parser to dt-validate!
> >> >>> >> That's not implemented in this patch, but rather left as future work (for
> >> >>> >> the brave, or the foolish).
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> acpi
> >> >>> >> ====
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> The current ACPI ECR is based on having a single ISA string unfortunately,
> >> >>> >> but ideally ACPI will move to another method, perhaps GUIDs, that give
> >> >>> >> explicit meaning to extensions.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Drop this paragraph on ACPI.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > We clearly mentioned previously that ACPI will follow specs defined by RVI.
> >> >>> > There are scalability issues in using GUIDs for each ISA extension.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Which spec are we following for the ACPI ISA string?
> >> >>
> >> >> ACPI RHCT follows the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
> >> >> defined by the RISC-V unpriv spec. I understand that there are
> >> >> unresolved issues in the "ISA Extension Naming Conventions"
> >> >> which should be addressed by RVI and we should also try our
> >> >> best to have this fixed in the spec.
> >> >
> >> > Which version of the spec?  We've had a ton of issues related to
> >> > versioning everywhere else the ISA string has been used, we need to know
> >> > specifically which version we're parsing in order to do anything
> >> > meaningful with it.
> >>
> >> Anup: Can you please provide a pointer to the spec this is supposed to
> >> implement?  I don't want to end up in the same spot again where we're
> >> presuming some spec changes, we've got to support whatever we merge no
> >> matter what happens on the spec side.
> >>
> >> In theory I'm on vacation today, but I'll try and look at the thread
> >> again tonight when I get back.
> >
> > It is the "Chapter 29. ISA Extension Naming Conventions" of the
> > RISC-V unpriv specification.
> > (https://github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-manual/releases/download/riscv-isa-release-1239329-2023-05-23/unpriv-isa-asciidoc.pdf)
> >
> > The RISC-V unpriv specification is only a collection of extensions
> > hence it does not have its own version.
>
> There's a version right on the front page, it says "Version ASCIIDOC
> Conversion, 12/2022".  There's a few with that version, but versioning
> is pretty broken in RISC-V land so we've mostly just started running
> with the commits/tags.
>
> It also says it's a pre release version, but if that's what ACPI is
> using then I'm fine with it -- the key is that whatever we're supporting
> we're stuck with, as we have to maintain compatibility here.
>
> > We should work with RVI to address the concerns/clarifications
> > that we need in "Chapter 29. ISA Extension Naming Conventions".
> >
> > We can also create GitHub issues for unpriv spec if that helps.
>
> The nice thing about starting with a new interface is that there's
> nothing to be compatible with, so there's no issues.  Given what a mess
> ISA strings have been everywhere else I'm sure we'll have some, but
> that's problem for later.
>
> I couldn't find anywhere else this was written down, so I started an
> ACPI doc -- as usual maybe a bit odd for just the one thing, but we
> usually end up with more.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230629031705.15575-1-palmer@rivosinc.com/

The "ISA string node structure" does mention that "ISA string" is
"Null-terminated ASCII Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) string for this
hart. The format of the ISA string is defined in the RISC-V unprivileged
specification."
(Refer, page6 of
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zSw9eaW3tlrdGxkclo9FsLvYxUvhAjRCR8_71EfRJR4/edit?usp=sharing)

Currently, the ACPI spec does not mention the exact version of the
"ISA string" chapter in the RISC-V unprivileged specification which
can be improved.

Also, there is a 2-byte "revision" field in the "ISA string node structure"
which can be used in the future to specify a different version of the
"ISA string" chapter.

Regards,
Anup

>
>
> > Regards,
> > Anup
> >
> >>
> >> >> In any case, ACPI spec is owned by UEFI forum so it does
> >> >> not make sense to define/recommend anything for ACPI in
> >> >> DT bindings.
> >> >
> >> > Unless I missed something this is just a long commit message, it's not
> >> > even in the docs.  If you don't want the DT side to even mention ACPI
> >> > that's fine with me, though, I don't really care.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Anup
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > Regards,
> >> >>> > Anup
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> parser simplicity
> >> >>> >> =================
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Many systems that parse DT at runtime already implement an function that
> >> >>> >> can check for the presence of a string in an array of string, as it is
> >> >>> >> similar to the process for parsing a list of compatible strings, so a
> >> >>> >> bunch of new, custom, DT parsing should not be needed.
> >> >>> >> Getting rid of "riscv,isa" parsing would be a nice simplification, but
> >> >>> >> unfortunately for backwards compatibility with old dtbs, existing
> >> >>> >> parsers may not be removable - which may greatly simplify
> >> >>> >> dt parsing code. In Linux, for example, checking for whether a hart
> >> >>> >> supports an extension becomes as simple as:
> >> >>> >>         of_property_match_string(node, "riscv,isa-extensions", "zicbom")
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> vendor extensions
> >> >>> >> =================
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Compared to riscv,isa, this proposed scheme promotes vendor extensions,
> >> >>> >> oft touted as the strength of RISC-V, to first-class citizens.
> >> >>> >> At present, extensions are defined as meaning what the RISC-V ISA
> >> >>> >> specifications say they do. There is no realistic way of using that
> >> >>> >> interface to provide cross-platform definitions for what vendor
> >> >>> >> extensions mean. Vendor extensions may also have even less consistency
> >> >>> >> than RVI do in terms of versioning, or no care about backwards
> >> >>> >> compatibility.
> >> >>> >> The new property allows us to assign explicit meanings on a per vendor
> >> >>> >> extension basis, backed up by a description of their meanings.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> fin
> >> >>> >> ===
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Create a new file to store the extension meanings and a new
> >> >>> >> riscv,isa-base property to replace the aspect of riscv,isa that is
> >> >>> >> not represented by the new property - the base ISA implemented by a hart.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> As a starting point, add properties for extensions currently used in
> >> >>> >> Linux.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Finally, mark riscv,isa as deprecated, as removing support for it in
> >> >>> >> existing programs would be an ABI break.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> CC: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>
> >> >>> >> CC: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
> >> >>> >> CC: Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Atish Patra <atishp@atishpatra.org>
> >> >>> >> CC: Jessica Clarke <jrtc27@jrtc27.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Rick Chen <rick@andestech.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Leo <ycliang@andestech.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: Oleksii <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> CC: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
> >> >>> >> CC: qemu-riscv@nongnu.org
> >> >>> >> CC: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> >> >>> >> CC: devicetree@vger.kernel.org
> >> >>> >> CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >> >>> >> Reviewed-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> >> >>> >> Acked-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> >> >>> >> Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> >> >>> >> ---
> >> >>> >> Changes in v3:
> >> >>> >> - Per Rob's suggestion, switch to an array of strings. Cuts down on the
> >> >>> >>   size, compared to booleans. It has a standard mechanism for parsing
> >> >>> >>   (you need to parse arrays of strings for compatibles). It still allows
> >> >>> >>   for having a limited set of explicitly defined properties - so the
> >> >>> >>   advantages over a free-form string still apply.
> >> >>> >> - Pick up Palmer's Ack and Review (although I expect that he will be the
> >> >>> >>   one to apply this).
> >> >>> >> ---
> >> >>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml       |  43 ++-
> >> >>> >>  .../devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml | 245 ++++++++++++++++++
> >> >>> >>  2 files changed, 265 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> >> >>> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >> >>> >> index 67bd239ead0b..74bc92591086 100644
> >> >>> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >> >>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/cpus.yaml
> >> >>> >> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ description: |
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>  allOf:
> >> >>> >>    - $ref: /schemas/cpu.yaml#
> >> >>> >> +  - $ref: extensions.yaml
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>  properties:
> >> >>> >>    compatible:
> >> >>> >> @@ -82,25 +83,6 @@ properties:
> >> >>> >>      description:
> >> >>> >>        The blocksize in bytes for the Zicboz cache operations.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> -  riscv,isa:
> >> >>> >> -    description:
> >> >>> >> -      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> >> >>> >> -      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> >> >>> >> -      User-Level ISA document, available from
> >> >>> >> -      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> >> >>> >> -
> >> >>> >> -      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> >> >>> >> -      have arisen over time.
> >> >>> >> -      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> >> >>> >> -      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> >> >>> >> -      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> >> >>> >> -
> >> >>> >> -      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> >> >>> >> -      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> >> >>> >> -      lowercase.
> >> >>> >> -    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >> >>> >> -    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> >> >>> >> -
> >> >>> >>    # RISC-V has multiple properties for cache op block sizes as the sizes
> >> >>> >>    # differ between individual CBO extensions
> >> >>> >>    cache-op-block-size: false
> >> >>> >> @@ -139,8 +121,17 @@ properties:
> >> >>> >>        DMIPS/MHz, relative to highest capacity-dmips-mhz
> >> >>> >>        in the system.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> +oneOf:
> >> >>> >> +  - required:
> >> >>> >> +      - riscv,isa
> >> >>> >> +  - required:
> >> >>> >> +      - riscv,isa-base
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +dependencies:
> >> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-base: [ "riscv,isa-extensions" ]
> >> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions: [ "riscv,isa-base" ]
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >>  required:
> >> >>> >> -  - riscv,isa
> >> >>> >>    - interrupt-controller
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>  unevaluatedProperties: false
> >> >>> >> @@ -160,7 +151,9 @@ examples:
> >> >>> >>                  i-cache-sets = <128>;
> >> >>> >>                  i-cache-size = <16384>;
> >> >>> >>                  reg = <0>;
> >> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imac";
> >> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "c";
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >>                  cpu_intc0: interrupt-controller {
> >> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >> >>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> >> >>> >> @@ -183,8 +176,10 @@ examples:
> >> >>> >>                  i-tlb-size = <32>;
> >> >>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv39";
> >> >>> >>                  reg = <1>;
> >> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >> >>> >>                  tlb-split;
> >> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >>                  cpu_intc1: interrupt-controller {
> >> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >> >>> >>                          compatible = "riscv,cpu-intc";
> >> >>> >> @@ -202,8 +197,10 @@ examples:
> >> >>> >>                  device_type = "cpu";
> >> >>> >>                  reg = <0>;
> >> >>> >>                  compatible = "riscv";
> >> >>> >> -                riscv,isa = "rv64imafdc";
> >> >>> >>                  mmu-type = "riscv,sv48";
> >> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-base = "rv64i";
> >> >>> >> +                riscv,isa-extensions = "i", "m", "a", "f", "d", "c";
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >>                  interrupt-controller {
> >> >>> >>                          #interrupt-cells = <1>;
> >> >>> >>                          interrupt-controller;
> >> >>> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >> >>> >> new file mode 100644
> >> >>> >> index 000000000000..af98307f2c2c
> >> >>> >> --- /dev/null
> >> >>> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/riscv/extensions.yaml
> >> >>> >> @@ -0,0 +1,245 @@
> >> >>> >> +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR MIT)
> >> >>> >> +%YAML 1.2
> >> >>> >> +---
> >> >>> >> +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/riscv/extensions.yaml#
> >> >>> >> +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +title: RISC-V ISA extensions
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +maintainers:
> >> >>> >> +  - Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
> >> >>> >> +  - Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>
> >> >>> >> +  - Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +description: |
> >> >>> >> +  RISC-V has a large number of extensions, some of which are "standard"
> >> >>> >> +  extensions, meaning they are ratified by RISC-V International, and others
> >> >>> >> +  are "vendor" extensions.
> >> >>> >> +  This document defines properties that indicate whether a hart supports a
> >> >>> >> +  given extension.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +  Once a standard extension has been ratified, no changes in behaviour can be
> >> >>> >> +  made without the creation of a new extension.
> >> >>> >> +  The properties for standard extensions therefore map to their originally
> >> >>> >> +  ratified states, with the exception of the I, Zicntr & Zihpm extensions.
> >> >>> >> +  See the "i" property for more information.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +select:
> >> >>> >> +  properties:
> >> >>> >> +    compatible:
> >> >>> >> +      contains:
> >> >>> >> +        const: riscv
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +properties:
> >> >>> >> +  riscv,isa:
> >> >>> >> +    description:
> >> >>> >> +      Identifies the specific RISC-V instruction set architecture
> >> >>> >> +      supported by the hart.  These are documented in the RISC-V
> >> >>> >> +      User-Level ISA document, available from
> >> >>> >> +      https://riscv.org/specifications/
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +      Due to revisions of the ISA specification, some deviations
> >> >>> >> +      have arisen over time.
> >> >>> >> +      Notably, riscv,isa was defined prior to the creation of the
> >> >>> >> +      Zicntr, Zicsr, Zifencei and Zihpm extensions and thus "i"
> >> >>> >> +      implies "zicntr_zicsr_zifencei_zihpm".
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +      While the isa strings in ISA specification are case
> >> >>> >> +      insensitive, letters in the riscv,isa string must be all
> >> >>> >> +      lowercase.
> >> >>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >> >>> >> +    pattern: ^rv(?:64|32)imaf?d?q?c?b?k?j?p?v?h?(?:[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)?(?:_[hsxz](?:[a-z])+)*$
> >> >>> >> +    deprecated: true
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-base:
> >> >>> >> +    description:
> >> >>> >> +      The base ISA implemented by this hart, as described by the 20191213
> >> >>> >> +      version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +    enum:
> >> >>> >> +      - rv32i
> >> >>> >> +      - rv64i
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +  riscv,isa-extensions:
> >> >>> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string-array
> >> >>> >> +    minItems: 1
> >> >>> >> +    description: Extensions supported by the hart.
> >> >>> >> +    items:
> >> >>> >> +      anyOf:
> >> >>> >> +        # single letter extensions, in canonical order
> >> >>> >> +        - const: i
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the 20191213
> >> >>> >> +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the exception of
> >> >>> >> +            counter access.
> >> >>> >> +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the 20191213
> >> >>> >> +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into the
> >> >>> >> +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: m
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard M extension for integer multiplication and division, as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> >>> >> +            specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: a
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard A extension for atomic instructions, as ratified in the
> >> >>> >> +            20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: f
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard F extension for single-precision floating point, as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> >>> >> +            specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: d
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard D extension for double-precision floating-point, as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> >>> >> +            specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: q
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Q extension for quad-precision floating-point, as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> >>> >> +            specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: c
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard C extension for compressed instructions, as ratified in
> >> >>> >> +            the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: v
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard V extension for vector operations, as ratified
> >> >>> >> +            in-and-around commit 7a6c8ae ("Fix text that describes vfmv.v.f
> >> >>> >> +            encoding") of the riscv-v-spec.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: h
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard H extension for hypervisors as ratified in the 20191213
> >> >>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        # multi-letter extensions, sorted alphanumerically
> >> >>> >> +        - const: smaia
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Smaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> >> >>> >> +            interrupt architecture for machine-mode-visible csr and behavioural
> >> >>> >> +            changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab ("Merge pull
> >> >>> >> +            request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: ssaia
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Ssaia supervisor-level extension for the advanced
> >> >>> >> +            interrupt architecture for supervisor-mode-visible csr and
> >> >>> >> +            behavioural changes to interrupts as frozen at commit ccbddab
> >> >>> >> +            ("Merge pull request #42 from riscv/jhauser-2023-RC4") of riscv-aia.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: sscofpmf
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Sscofpmf supervisor-level extension for count overflow
> >> >>> >> +            and mode-based filtering as ratified at commit 01d1df0 ("Add ability
> >> >>> >> +            to manually trigger workflow. (#2)") of riscv-count-overflow.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: sstc
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Sstc supervisor-level extension for time compare as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified at commit 3f9ed34 ("Add ability to manually trigger
> >> >>> >> +            workflow. (#2)") of riscv-time-compare.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: svinval
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Svinval supervisor-level extension for fine-grained
> >> >>> >> +            address-translation cache invalidation as ratified in the 20191213
> >> >>> >> +            version of the privileged ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: svnapot
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Svnapot supervisor-level extensions for napot
> >> >>> >> +            translation contiguity as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> >> >>> >> +            privileged ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: svpbmt
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Svpbmt supervisor-level extensions for page-based
> >> >>> >> +            memory types as ratified in the 20191213 version of the privileged
> >> >>> >> +            ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zba
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zba bit-manipulation extension for address generation
> >> >>> >> +            acceleration instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull
> >> >>> >> +            request #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of
> >> >>> >> +            riscv-bitmanip.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zbb
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zbb bit-manipulation extension for basic bit-manipulation
> >> >>> >> +            as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158 from
> >> >>> >> +            hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zbc
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zbc bit-manipulation extension for carry-less
> >> >>> >> +            multiplication as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request
> >> >>> >> +            #158 from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zbs
> >> >>> >> +          description: |
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zbs bit-manipulation extension for single-bit
> >> >>> >> +            instructions as ratified at commit 6d33919 ("Merge pull request #158
> >> >>> >> +            from hirooih/clmul-fix-loop-end-condition") of riscv-bitmanip.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zicbom
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zicbom extension for base cache management operations as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zicbop
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zicbop extension for cache-block prefetch instructions
> >> >>> >> +            as ratified in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of
> >> >>> >> +            riscv-CMOs.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zicboz
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zicboz extension for cache-block zeroing as ratified
> >> >>> >> +            in commit 3dd606f ("Create cmobase-v1.0.pdf") of riscv-CMOs.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zicntr
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zicntr extension for base counters and timers, as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> >>> >> +            specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zicsr
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zicsr extension for control and status register
> >> >>> >> +            instructions, as ratified in the 20191213 version of the
> >> >>> >> +            unprivileged ISA specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zifencei
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zifencei extension for instruction-fetch fence, as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> >>> >> +            specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zihintpause
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zihintpause extension for pause hints, as ratified in
> >> >>> >> +            commit d8ab5c7 ("Zihintpause is ratified") of the riscv-isa-manual.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: zihpm
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Zihpm extension for hardware performance counters, as
> >> >>> >> +            ratified in the 20191213 version of the unprivileged ISA
> >> >>> >> +            specification.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +        - const: ztso
> >> >>> >> +          description:
> >> >>> >> +            The standard Ztso extension for total store ordering, as ratified
> >> >>> >> +            in commit 2e5236 ("Ztso is now ratified.") of the
> >> >>> >> +            riscv-isa-manual.
> >> >>> >> +
> >> >>> >> +additionalProperties: true
> >> >>> >> +...
> >> >>> >> --
> >> >>> >> 2.40.1
> >> >>> >>
  

Been implementing feedback, so going back through this

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 12:30:25PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 11:35:10PM -0700, Atish Patra wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 5:40 PM Stefan O'Rear <sorear@fastmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, at 6:10 AM, Conor Dooley wrote:
> 
> > > > Off-list, some of the RVI folks have committed to shoring up the wording
> > > > in either the ISA specifications, the riscv-isa-manual or
> > > > so that in the future, modifications to and additions or removals of
> > > > features will require a new extension. Codifying that assertion
> > > > somewhere would make it quite unlikely that compatibility would be
> > > > broken, but we have the tools required to deal with it, if & when it
> > > > crops up.
> > > > It is in our collective interest, as consumers of extension meanings, to
> > > > define a scheme that enforces compatibility.
> > > >
> > > > The use of individual properties, rather than elements in a single
> > >
> > > no longer individual properties
> > >
> > > > string, will also permit validation that the properties have a meaning,
> > > > as well as potentially reject mutually exclusive combinations, or
> > > > enforce dependencies between extensions. That would not have be possible
> > >
> > > Under what circumstances is a device tree which declares support for a
> > > superset extension (e.g. m) required to also declare support for its subsets
> > > (e.g. zmmul)?  There are compatibility issues in both directions.
> > >
> > > Proposal: If an extension X is a superset of an extension Y and X is present
> > > in riscv,isa-extensions, Y must also be present if Y was ratified or added
> > > to the schema before X, but need not also be present if Y was ratified after
> > > or at the same time as X.  If X "depends on" Y, then Y must be present in
> > > riscv,isa-extensions even if X and Y were ratified at the same time.
> 
> Yes, I think that this all makes sense from a compatibility point of
> view. Splitting it up:
> 
> > > If an extension X is a superset of an extension Y and X is present
> > > in riscv,isa-extensions, Y must also be present if Y was ratified or added
> > > to the schema before X
> 
> This makes total sense from a "being nice to" software point of view.
> 
> > > but need not also be present if Y was ratified after
> > > or at the same time as X.
> 
> It may make sense to reduce this to only after, or not permit the
> supersets at all where they are ratified alongside their subsets.
> Cross that bridge when we come to it perhaps.

I ending up doing some proof of concept implementation of this for linux
the other day, I think "at or at the same time" is the way to go. Up to
me to enforce while reviewing binding patches I guess!

> > > If X "depends on" Y, then Y must be present in
> > > riscv,isa-extensions even if X and Y were ratified at the same tim
> 
> For Linux, this is already the case for F & D. I think that's a good
> policy to follow.

> > > > +        - const: i
> > > > +          description: |
> > > > +            The base integer instruction set, as ratified in the
> > > > 20191213
> > > > +            version of the unprivileged ISA specification, with the
> > > > exception of
> > > > +            counter access.
> > > > +            Counter access was removed after the ratification of the
> > > > 20191213
> > > > +            version of the unprivileged specification and shunted into
> > > > the
> > > > +            Zicntr and Zihpm extensions.
> > >
> > > I think this may belong in the description of zicsr?  rdcycle in 20191213
> > > is a special case of csrrs, which is in zicsr not the base.
> 
> Sorry, this is a bit unclear. Do you mean that the sentence you have
> provided here should be in the Zicsr entry?

I went and checked this, rdcycle appears in chapter 10 "Counters", not
chapter 9 "Zicsr". I'll slightly reword it & put it in both sections
since the specs are (IMO) unclear in this regard.

Cheers,
Conor.